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Old 12-17-2010, 02:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Red Sox Sign Bobby Jenks and Matt Albers

Well, Boston shored up its bullpen by signing Bobby Jenks and adding Matt Albers for middle/long relief depth. I like the Jenks signing for one reason, Boston's defense is a lot better than Chicago's, so his BA on balls in play should return to career norms. He's apparently there to help ease the transition to the Daniel Bard era. Papelbon's likely pitching his last year for Boston, but after last year I don't care. I'm praying that Contract Year Papelbon has a great season and Boston ends up with a couple of draftpicks for him (and I'll laugh my ass off if he signs a ridiculous contract with the Yankees).
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Re: Red Sox Sign Bobby Jenks and Matt Albers

Albers will probably spend the bulk of his time in AAA, barring some injuries.

I still want Fuentes though (to my knowledge he's still out there).
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Re: Red Sox Sign Bobby Jenks and Matt Albers

Wait...Do Red Sox fans really think that signing Bobby Jenks is shoring up there Bullpen?

After a offseason of watching Red Soxs just embrasses the Yankees and get 2 big time player this makes me a little happy so now i can watch Bobby Jenks blow leads before the ball get to Papelbon
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He's apparently there to help ease the transition to the Daniel Bard era. Papelbon's likely pitching his last year for Boston, but after last year I don't care. I'm praying that Contract Year Papelbon has a great season and Boston ends up with a couple of draftpicks for him (and I'll laugh my ass off if he signs a ridiculous contract with the Yankees).
Got to love Boston fans Papelbon did nothing but win games and work his ass off for Red Sox and all the fans do is want him out...The guy had 1 average year not even a bad year and all Red Sox fans can talk about is how they cant wait for Bard to take over for Papelbon i would love to have Papelbon in New York the guy is a top 3 closer in the league
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Albers will probably spend the bulk of his time in AAA, barring some injuries.

I still want Fuentes though (to my knowledge he's still out there).
Fuentes ****ing sucks. You can have him.
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Why thank you. We can always dump him if he doesn't pan out.
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Got to love Boston fans Papelbon did nothing but win games and work his ass off for Red Sox and all the fans do is want him out...The guy had 1 average year not even a bad year and all Red Sox fans can talk about is how they cant wait for Bard to take over for Papelbon i would love to have Papelbon in New York the guy is a top 3 closer in the league
Papelbon was terrible last year, and his peripherals have been declining for a couple of years now. He may make a contract year recovery, but Bard's the future. Their attempt to sign the Fruitbat to a two year deal (and the other shoe, a non-tender of Papelbon) is indicative of the fact that Bard is going to be handed the role as soon as next year.

Jenks' problem last year was a high BABIP. His peripherals aren't terrible, and Boston's defense is a lot better than Chicago's. Much better depending on how quickly Iglesias makes it to Boston. Jenks' role this year is as a setup man (and frankly, the other setup man as Bard's going to be the primary one), and frankly he's fine there. Next Year Bard will likely be the closer and Jenks the insurance policy to smooth over any rough patches.

Albers is just extra depth. You can never have too many bullpen arms in the wings. Bullpen troubles start when the call goes out for help to deal with the inevitable injuries. So having a better AAAA guy waiting is a definite advantage.
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Just like AJ Burnett, eh?
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The White Sox were solid defensively last year... other than Jenks' BABIP, what are you basing your claims of Red Sox defensive superiority on?
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Just like AJ Burnett, eh?
Um, this would obviously be a much smaller scale signing.
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Old 12-18-2010, 01:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The White Sox were solid defensively last year... other than Jenks' BABIP, what are you basing your claims of Red Sox defensive superiority on?
The fact that even with their best fielders missing gigantic portions of last season their defense posted a lower BABIP overall is indicative of that. There will be a defensive downgrade at third with Youkilis, but Pedroia's health along with Ellsbury's health and the addition of Carl Crawford mean they'll likely be better this year. Jed Lowrie is (allegedly, I'll grant you) finally healthy and ready to take over as the utility infielder, which should improve the overall defense, as well. And they spectacular fielding shortstop waiting in the wings.

And, mind you, all this is in a discussion over a middle reliever whose whole purpose here is to be available as an emergency closer next year for any rough patches that Daniel Bard suffers (i.e., he doesn't need to be prime Fruitbat or Papelboner). This year he's a middle reliever.

Back to Papelbon his peripherals have shown a rapid and alarming decline. His contact against numbers have remained steady, but his walk percentages, oOBP and extra base hit percentages have been going up. So batters aren't making any more contact, but when they do they're hitting him harder and there are more runners on base. The percentage of inherited runners scoring has also risen precipitously. If he were willing to sign a reasonable contract, that's be one thing, but he's looking for a 5/80 sort of deal, and I'd rather the Red Sox not tie up that sort of cash in a declining asset. I'll be happy to let another team make that mistake.
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Re: Red Sox Sign Bobby Jenks and Matt Albers

add Dan Wheeler to the Red Sox pen.
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That middle relief corps is looking pretty solid at the moment. Now they just need a lefty specialist to round out the set.
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Fuentes is much better against righties than he is lefties and that isn't saying much.
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Re: Red Sox Sign Bobby Jenks and Matt Albers

Yeah, I'm not really that enamoured of Fuentes. Though Boston should kick the tires just to help him get a 3/20 offer from the Yankees.
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