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Adrian Gonzalez 4 30.77%
Curtis Granderson 4 30.77%
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Give your top 3 pick and if possible a reason why.
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Re: Your AL MVP

1. Granderson 2. Gonzalez 3. Batista

Granderson is having an epic season for arguably the best team in baseball, A-Gone you can say the same but ill give it to granderson based on his running ability and the fact he plays a plus defense center... Batista falls into the same category that Kemp did for me in the NL.. great stats that didnt amount to team success.. and thats clearly not their fault... Verlander will win cy young but i dont feel that someone who only contributes every 5 days should win mvp
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Re: Your AL MVP

Justin Verlander
Adrian Gonzalez
Curtis Granderson
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Re: Your AL MVP

1. Jose Bautista
2. Jacoby Ellsbury
3. Curtis Granderson

Baustita is simply heads and shoulders above his peers this year. Even after he cooled down mid season he is still holding an ops of 1.109, a whole .35 points higher than the next guy in the AL. The fact that Blue Jays is mediocre this year makes his numbers even more impressive in my opinion. Bautista has very limited protection as the Jays have rotated their 4th batter throughout the year. Guys like Adam Lind, Encarnacion, Aaron Hill have all hit 4th at some point and none have had any consistency. For many teams it has become a "Pitch to Bautista if no one on base, walk if otherwise." That's the reason why most of his HRs this year have been solo shots as teams simply don't risk pitching to him with guys on base.

Ellsbury is my 2nd pick. He has had an unbelievable year as a hitter and to have 23 hr at leadoff is outstanding. Defensively he has been rock solid for the Red Sox as well.
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Jose Bautista - just a monster, so good right now

my list is the same as seifer0406
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Old 08-26-2011, 06:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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1. Granderson 2. Gonzalez 3. Batista

Granderson is having an epic season for arguably the best team in baseball, A-Gone you can say the same but ill give it to granderson based on his running ability and the fact he plays a plus defense center... Batista falls into the same category that Kemp did for me in the NL.. great stats that didnt amount to team success.. and thats clearly not their fault... Verlander will win cy young but i dont feel that someone who only contributes every 5 days should win mvp
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1. Jose Bautista
2. Justin Verlander
3. Jacoby Ellsbury
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1. Jose Bautista
2. Justin Verlander
3. Jacoby Ellsbury
I'd flip Ellsbury and Verlander, but this would be my list as well.
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Re: Your AL MVP

Bautista has not been the same since the first 2 months.. I'm going with Adrian.

I do love Bautista though, and I feel that Verlander has been fantastic as well. Granderson isnt the best player on his team and plays in a park that puts routine fly balls into the right field seats.
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Re: Your AL MVP

Granderson is on pace for 149 runs scored, which would be the 2nd highest total since 1950. I don't think that makes him the MVP, but it's pretty impressive for him and the Yankees as a team.
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Granderson is on pace for 149 runs scored, which would be the 2nd highest total since 1950. I don't think that makes him the MVP, but it's pretty impressive for him and the Yankees as a team.
I hate the Yankees, but you're right. And when was the last time a guy hit 40 home runs with double-digit triples? That's some Willie Mays/Hank Aaron type shit right there, small ballpark or not, and Granderson is on pace.
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I hate the Yankees, but you're right. And when was the last time a guy hit 40 home runs with double-digit triples? That's some Willie Mays/Hank Aaron type shit right there, small ballpark or not, and Granderson is on pace.
exactly 40hr double digit triple plus he could hit 150 runs scored...If he wasnt a Yankee people would be all over him for MVP but haters got to hate
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Re: Your AL MVP

1. Verlander
2. Granderson
3. Ellsbury

You could flip flop 2/3 for me. I agree that Bautista deserves a Silver Slugger this year. But the fact remains that his team is in 4th place. And I'm a proponent of the idea that a team needs to be in contention for SOMETHING for a player to be the Most Valuable Player at the end of the season. On the one hand you can say that his team would be in contention in the AL Central - to which I argue: his team is one of the most profitable teams in baseball in one of baseball's biggest markets, they should be contending in the AL East.

First the argument that someone going every fifth day shouldn't be a contender for the MVP... I can agree with that frequently. Justin Verlander, though... fact is that right now Verlander is facing almost 17% of all plate appearances by Tigers opposition in 2011. Lets put that out there right now for those of you making the every-five-days argument: He factors into almost 17% of all plate appearances by a Tigers opponent. The other guys in the debate? They've factored into less than 12% of all plate appearances by their team. Think about that for a moment the next time you try to make the every-five-days argument. Verlander factors into about 5% more plate appearances during Tigers games than any of these guys does for their team.

On top of that: The team is 13 games over .500 when he's pitching. They're .500 when he's not. Right there you're looking at the difference between a team with a solid lead in the AL Central and a team struggling to stay in the race in a mediocre division. He's 20-5 for a team that is, when he's not pitching, probably a below .500 team. Factor in the way he saves the bullpen allowing them to fire darts, all but guaranteeing them a light day once every time through the rotation... and you're almost certainly looking at a team that on the whole would be a few games below .500 and struggling to be mentioned as a playoff team right now.

If you remove Ellsbury? Boston still has the bullets in the chamber to make the playoffs.
If you remove Gonzalez? Same deal.
Granderson? Same.
Sabathia? Yep.
Miguel Cabrera in Detroit? Yes, even removing Cabrera would not tank Detroit's playoff hopes... as long as they have Verlander. Keep in mind what few people have: Detroit has had Peralta hitting a consistent .310 with an OPS around .840... Avila has a .301 and an OPS over .920... Victor Martinez at .320/.820... and Brennan Boesch at .283/.799 (both numbers tanked over the few weeks since his thumb injury, which is why he's sitting now he was at .295/.820 when he mucked it up). Losing Cabrera wouldn't tank the offense.

But losing Verlander? We're looking at an afterthought in a weak division, instead of a team that could steal a 5 game series if Verlander goes twice.
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Not having Sabathia would demolish New York's playoff hopes. Without C.C. they're a team hoping to win enough 13-11 games to make the playoffs, where they'd be promptly sent home for being unable to prevent opponents from scoring. That's my biggest problem with the "Granderson for MVP" stuff, he's, at best, the second most valuable player on that team.
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Not having Sabathia would demolish New York's playoff hopes. Without C.C. they're a team hoping to win enough 13-11 games to make the playoffs, where they'd be promptly sent home for being unable to prevent opponents from scoring. That's my biggest problem with the "Granderson for MVP" stuff, he's, at best, the second most valuable player on that team.
Sabathia has been great, and he's kept them up with Boston - but I have an inkling they'd still win the WC without Sabathia. I feel like with Sabathia we're talking about the difference between a playoff team that could sneak into the WS... and without a WC team that could bludgeon into the ALCS. With Detroit/Verlander its a team that could sneak into the ALCS vs me getting laughed at if I said they had a shot at the playoffs.
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