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Old 08-08-2016, 10:32 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Warriors 1997-98: Why didn't the Golden State Warriors' front office at least tried to make an effort to trade Latrell Sprewell away in the 1997 offseason before P.J. Carlesimo happened?

I bet Garry St. Jean was a terrible GM and the '97-'98 Golden State Warriors as a team (outside of Latrell Sprewell, Joe Smith and Donyell Marshall) were really so bad, PJ Carlesimo's way of relating to players was always a total failure. Nobody (even outside of Sprewell) liked Carlesimo because he was a college coach trying to control the NBA superstars like college ballers all over again, more like taming them like his pet animals. I think those who remember the whole Latrell Sprewell choking incident back in Dec. 1997 in practice, most likely remember the whole Sprewell/Carlesimo feud through the media for the viciousness of the choking involved, not because of the choking alone, because Sprewell wouldn't even let up, so the media made Sprewell an easy target to critique.

Shortly before Sprewell's choking incident, B.J. Armstrong wasn't even around to even witness the incident. Probably because Armstrong himself wanted out of GSW for being a losing team, after Armstrong was used to being a part of NBA Championship contenders like the Chicago Bulls' early 1990s 3-peat dynasty. However, Armstrong hadn't been the same since he tore his knee ligaments the previous season ('96-'97) so he was relegated to third-string point guard behind Bimbo Coles and Brian Shaw, with hardly little time on the floor, so off he went to the Charlotte Hornets for the most beloved Hornet in franchise history: Muggsy Bogues. And like Armstrong, Bogues wasn't even the same after his knee injuries in '95-'96, so he was relegated to third string point guard behind David Wesley and either Tony Delk or Corey Beck, before Delk was thrown-in to the Bogues/Armstrong trade in November 1997.

It looked like the 1997 Choking Incident was a first major NBA demerit conduct point against Sprewell. The NBA were gonna run Sprewell out of the league by forcing Garry St. Jean and Golden State to terminate Sprewell's pre-existing 4-year $32 million dollar contract which was to pay him a base salary of $8M per those seasons, so initially, the NBA was going to order Golden State to suspend Sprewell for just 10 games, but reneged on the initial 10-day suspension so the NBA upgraded Sprewell's ban to a full 82 games (one full calendar year) and even a lifetime ban, as well as being rendered ineligible to play overseas basketball while on suspension.

David Stern unfortunately took the side of P.J. Carlesimo, even though Stern should have known that Carlesimo wasn't cut out for head coaching at the NBA level, due to the latter's screamer bark bark reputation. The choking incident even got Sprewell removed from Kobe Bryant's NBA Courtside, an Nintendo 64-exclusive NBA game being the first ever NBA game to star a young Kobe Bryant (afro), although he would be on another mostly-N64 exclusive NBA Jam 99 as a member of the Warriors team. While on suspension, Sprewell had to face public vilification like a man much the same way Jack Thompson the anti-violent video game crusader tried to face public villification like a man. If this was Carmelo Anthony, he'd be cowering away from the public domain like Anita Sarkeesian habitually does when called out on her hypocrisies and flip flopping what she thinks are facts when it comes to sexism in the video game industry especially female characters. Anita just gets her SJW fans to intercept Anita criticism messages through them instead of Anita face to face.

The real men of the NBA imo are: Latrell Sprewell, Zach Randolph, Shawn Kemp, Gary Payton, Metta World Peace, Allen Iverson, Jim Jackson, Rod Strickland, Rasheed Wallace, Isaiah Rider, Charles Oakley, Bill Laimbeer, Rick Mahorn, Ben Wallace and Jerry Stackhouse

The fake men of the NBA imo are:
1) Carmelo "Sarkeesian/Honey Nut Cheerios" Anthony
2) LeBron "Drama Queen" James
3) Kobe "Airball" Bryant
4) Michael "Psycho" Jordan
5) David "Moral Crusader Dictator" Stern
6) P.J. "Irritant Screamer" Carlesimo
7) Derrick "Broken Glass" Rose
8) Kevin "Marshmallow" Love
9) Russell "Flashy Moves" Westbrook
10) Kevin "Turncoat" Durant
11) Ason "Master Manipulator" Kidd

Back to my point on the Sprewell/Carlesimo feud: as Sprewell was about to file for arbitration to get his year long suspension overturned to the remainder of '97-'98, Sprewell was caught up in a reckless driving charge for his role in a 90-mile-per-hour accident that injured two people, and spent three months under house arrest as part of a no-contest plea. Thankfully, the '98-'99 NBA Lockout affected the NBA's '98-'99 season from 82 games to a shortened 50 games. On the other side, the NBA Lockout also meant that Sprewell would never even play an NBA game in the year 1998. So when the lockout was lifted, and Golden State finally found a taker, David Stern decided to put Sprewell in his place by sending him to a big market media team like the New York Knicks in the Big Apple at the cost of John Starks, Chris Mills and Terry Cummings, knowing that Sprewell would never stuff up in the Big Apple's media crazed market with a strong support system like Jeff Van Gundy, and Sprewell (while he would never again don a Warriors uniform after the choking incident) went on to make an NBA Finals appearance in 1999 versus the San Antonio Spurs, followed by his one All-Star appearance as a Knick in their first season without Patrick Ewing, years before Sprewell was dealt in 2003 to the Minnesota Timberwolves, where he teamed up with Sam Cassell and Kevin Garnett in Minnesota's first and only 2004 Western Conference Finals which they've lost against the Lakers due to an infamous Sam Cassell dance and subsequent hip injury that made him a hit or miss player.

After Sprewell declined a three-year, $21 million dollar contract extension, citing being slightly paid less than what his current contract offered him at the time, by decreeing that he has a family to feed. So Sprewell turned in the worst season of his NBA career in '04-'05 when he didn't look even further to get an extended contract. After the season in which Minnesota failed to make the playoffs for the first time since '95-'96 (Garnett's rookie season), Sprewell was a free agent, and having accumulated so much baggage since especially his most infamous 1997 Choking Incident with P.J. Carlesimo, while his pre-1997 crimes were mostly minor, consisting of mostly practice altercations with Byron Houston in 1992-93 and Jerome Kersey in 1995-96, with his daughter being injured by his own pitbull, it's safe to say Sprewell was essentially told that if he joined an NBA team for 2005-06, he would have to swallow his pride and sign a veteran's minimum deal for an automatic contender.

So the team that Golden State Warriors were looking to trade Sprewell to, were the San Antonio Spurs; where they had veterans and guys like David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Sean Elliott, Avery Johnson, Carl Herrera, Chuck Person, Malik Rose, Jaren Jackson, Vinny Del Negro, Monty Williams and also head coach Gregg Popovich would've been able to keep Sprewell in line and more focused on the court than P.J. Carlesimo ever could've dreamed of becoming.
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This is a re-post, isn't it.
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@t ucl Salamanca The initial post was mistakenly posted on a time when almost nobody on BasketballForum.com posted at all. This time, the re-post was done to happen at a time when almost everybody is back in action.

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Before Sprewell had the infamous moment where he choked P.J. Carlesimo in December 1997, weeks ago Golden State were looking to trade him to the San Antonio Spurs where they had veterans and guys like David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Sean Elliott, Avery Johnson, Carl Herrera, Chuck Person, Malik Rose, Jaren Jackson, Vinny Del Negro, Monty Williams and also head coach Gregg Popovich. A mix of veterans, journeymen and professionals would've been able to keep Sprewell in line and more focused on the court than P.J. Carlesimo ever could've dreamed of becoming.
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