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Old 08-22-2017, 03:13 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Why didn't Red Auerbach break up Boston's Big Three via trade when he had the chance?

The old trade rumors were that Larry Bird was supposed to go to his hometown Indiana Pacers in exchange for Chuck Person, Herb Williams and the contract of recently retired Steve Stipanovich at the conclusion of the '87-'88 NBA season, which would've helped benefit Chuck Person since he would've been a great scorer on a great team after having been given the stigma of a guy who is only a great scoring machine when he played for the horrific 1980s pre-Reggie Miller Pacers teams. Herb Williams could've also avoided being an eternal backup to Patrick Ewing for much of the 1990s as a result.

And another trade rumor was that in '88-'89, Kevin McHale was originally intended to get shipped out of Boston to the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for Sam Perkins and Detlef Schrempf. Given that Perkins was a F-C who found his niche as a Stretch Four type of big man who shot three pointers, he would've been a better choice to be a better backup to Robert Parish than the useless Joe Kleine.

Those trade would've meant that Robert Parish would be the last remaining member of the Bird/McHale/Parish Big Three still around while Bird returns to his hometown of Indiana, and McHale goes down the Deep South territory.

But even then, there was a trade rumor that would've sent Robert Parish and Brian Shaw to the Seattle SuperSonics just prior to '90-'91 in exchange for Michael Cage and Xavier McDaniel, meaning that Boston could've had X-Man in his prime than when he really finally got to Boston in 1992.

Thus Boston would've avoided being a poorly run team if they had Dennis Johnson, Dee Brown, John Bagley, Reggie Lewis, Kevin Gamble, Ed Pinckney, Xavier McDaniel, Rick Fox, Chuck Person, Detlef Schrempf, Michael Cage, Len Bias and Herb Williams as the team's nucleus of future stars without Red Auerbach being blinded by nostalgia goggles to keep Bird, McHale and Parish around in Boston until two-thirds of the Big Three broke down and Parish eventually left Boston as a free agent to go play in Charlotte and Chicago.

But no, Auerbach's stubbornness in refusing to trade Bird, McHale and Parish while all were still healthy and effective ultimately cost Boston big time in the 1990s where they have had to become a former glorious franchise now filled with tragedy and turmoil among them post-Bird era. And we know Boston never won an NBA Championship again with Bird/McHale/Parish still around after 1985-86 so why keep the trio if they weren't going to lead them to another NBA Championship post-1986, and don't tell me the emergence of the Pistons and the Bulls were responsible for Boston's trio not getting anymore rings. Red Auerbach screwed up big time.

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Re: Why didn't Red Auerbach break up Boston's Big Three via trade when he had the chance?

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Dennis Johnson, Dee Brown, John Bagley, Reggie Lewis, Kevin Gamble, Ed Pinckney, Xavier McDaniel, Rick Fox, Chuck Person, Detlef Schrempf, Michael Cage, Len Bias (stop making shit up, the association doesn't allow corpses to occupy roster spots) and Herb Williams
essentially a first round easy out for the Bad Boys or Mike's Bulls and all you had to do was fuck over the greatest player in your team's history - good thinking Einstein
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essentially a first round easy out for the Bad Boys or Mike's Bulls and all you had to do was fuck over the greatest player in your team's history - good thinking Einstein
But Bird and McHale weren't getting any younger and any better. Boston never again won a NBA Championship with Bird, McHale and Parish at the helm after 1985-86, so what's your point trying to justify Red Auerbach keeping Boston's Big Three intact?

You do know Bird had developed back problems that never again allowed him to play a full 82 game season at full strength, right? You do know McHale kept getting a string of foot, ankle, leg and back injuries that rendered him almost close to uselessness, right?

The truth is, Boston needed to stock up on future stars beyond Bird, McHale and Parish much sooner by shipping them to other teams. Bird to Indiana for Chuck Person, Herb Williams and Steve Stipanovich; McHale to Dallas for Sam Perkins and Detlef Schrempf, and Parish w/Shaw to Seattle for Xavier McDaniel and Michael Cage.

Instead, Boston turned into a tragedy franchise for much of the 1990s and it was MADDENING to see Auerbach refuse to cave in to the trade rumors and pull the trigger on making the trades actually happen. The reason why I included Len Bias is that you do know full well that Bias would've made a solid player if he hadn't hit the crack pipes and die from his addictions. Len Bias and Reggie Lewis could've became long-term superstars if they didn't end up dying as a result, and they would've helped the Celtics avoid turning into a tragedy franchise like they did.
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