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2006 weak, 2007 strong?

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Ok so Oden aside next year is the projected draft crop strong?

If Morrison, Gay and Aldridge decline to declare does that make 2007 a stronger draft, or does it weaken it?
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Idk about the 2007 draft but if those three guys decline the 2006 draft will be weak as ****
I would think that if the top three projected picks this year stay out of the draft it would only strengthen next years draft....Did I misunderstand the question?
mediocre man said:
I would think that if the top three projected picks this year stay out of the draft it would only strengthen next years draft....Did I misunderstand the question?
Well My question is round about. People are griping we need to trade our pick since it's sucha weak draft this year, the 3 mentioned included. So if they don't declare and are in the draft next year are they themselves better?

AKA is Drafting Morrison next year better than drafting him this year?

Example...I would imagine that next years draft would project like this

Oden
Gay
Aldridge
Morrison

So if those guys stick this year, why trade the pick? 2 shots at Oden? Yeah right like any team sitting in the bottom 10 of the league right now is going to trade an unprotected pick for just about anything.
Schilly said:
Well My question is round about. People are griping we need to trade our pick since it's sucha weak draft this year, the 3 mentioned included. So if they don't declare and are in the draft next year are they themselves better?

AKA is Drafting Morrison next year better than drafting him this year?
Yes, because you would not have to wait as long for him to be an effective player in the league.
tlong said:
Yes, because you would not have to wait as long for him to be an effective player in the league.
So if we pick Morrison in 2006 we have to wait a year for him to develop so he can contribute in 2007/2008. But, if we draft him in 2007 he'll be ready to contribute in 2007/2008.

Makes perfect sense to me.
mediocre man said:
I would think that if the top three projected picks this year stay out of the draft it would only strengthen next years draft....Did I misunderstand the question?
Heh. I was wondering the same thing.

If any of Gay/Aldridge/Morrison/Bargagni don't come out this year, it strengthens the 2007 draft. I'm not sure if any or all of them would be drafted higher than Julian Wright, Kevin Durant, or Brandan Wright (if they all come out), but it seems like any of them would be top-5 picks, minimum, strengthening the 2007 draft.

I think that the key to this year's draft is the freshmen Tyrus Thomas and Josh McRoberts. Either (or both) of them could be top-6 if they come out this year, and it's conceivable they could bump down one (or more) of what many see as the "big four" of the 2006 draft.

Ed O.
Schilly said:
So if those guys stick this year, why trade the pick? 2 shots at Oden? Yeah right like any team sitting in the bottom 10 of the league right now is going to trade an unprotected pick for just about anything.
Two shots at Oden is one reason. Another, painful, reason is that by not having a lottery pick this year we would have a better shot with our OWN pick at getting Oden.

I don't have any illusions that our lottery pick this year is going to get us into the playoffs, but he should be a guy that steps into the rotation (if not the starting lineup), and will help us win a few more games. Winning a few more games means an inferior chance at winning Oden.

Ed O.
Ed O said:
Two shots at Oden is one reason. Another, painful, reason is that by not having a lottery pick this year we would have a better shot with our OWN pick at getting Oden.

I don't have any illusions that our lottery pick this year is going to get us into the playoffs, but he should be a guy that steps into the rotation (if not the starting lineup), and will help us win a few more games. Winning a few more games means an inferior chance at winning Oden.

Ed O.
But do we essentially set up to bail another season for a shot at Oden? Isn't it time to start coming back up?
Schilly said:
But do we essentially set up to bail another season for a shot at Oden? Isn't it time to start coming back up?
ok, so lets say we trade this years pick for next years pick..so we have 2 lotto picks next year.

and what happens if neither one gets us oden?

then fans (I can't think of their names off the top of my head) will ***** and moan and moan and ***** about how the team didn't draft well, etc.
The way I see it breaking down is this. If we trade our pick for an upgrade in player then we probably ruin any shot at Oden.

Any pick we receive in 2007 will be protected to keep us from landing Oden.

Our only shot at Oden is to keep our pick add another rookie who needs a year, suck again next year and hope the lottery goes in our favor.
Schilly said:
So if we pick Morrison in 2006 we have to wait a year for him to develop so he can contribute in 2007/2008. But, if we draft him in 2007 he'll be ready to contribute in 2007/2008.

Makes perfect sense to me.
Obviously Morrison will physically mature during an extra year of college basketball. What is it that you don't understand about this concept?
tlong said:
Obviously Morrison will physically mature during an extra year of college basketball. What is it that you don't understand about this concept?
So he wouldn't physically mature at the NBA level?
Schilly said:
So he wouldn't physically mature at the NBA level?
Of course he would. But he would be more effective in his 1st year in the NBA if he stayed in school another year. That is obvious.
tlong said:
Obviously Morrison will physically mature during an extra year of college basketball. What is it that you don't understand about this concept?
Using that logic, oden should stay in college 2 years, as he will physically mature more in 2 years in college than in the NBA.
tlong said:
Of course he would. But he would be more effective in his 1st year in the NBA if he stayed in school another year. That is obvious.
Ok so less effective next year vs more effective the year after...What's the difference? Either way he makes more of an impact on 07/08.

What is it that you don't understand about this concept?
Hap said:
Using that logic, oden should stay in college 2 years, as he will physically mature more in 2 years in college than in the NBA.
Actually who's to say he won't stay in college for 2 years?
The question I'm answering is the following by Schilly.

AKA is Drafting Morrison next year better than drafting him this year?

I'm not saying he should stay in school another year. That is not the question. Assuming you would be certain of drafting Morrison this year versus being certain you would draft Morrison next year, then next year would be the preferable scenario.
tlong said:
The question I'm answering is the following by Schilly.




I'm not saying he should stay in school another year. That is not the question. Assuming you would be certain of drafting Morrison this year versus being certain you would draft Morrison next year, then next year would be the preferable scenario.
Touche....

To pose another question to the fanbase here....Would you trade our 2007 1st for a top 5 in this years draft?
Schilly said:
Touche....

To pose another question to the fanbase here....Would you trade our 2007 1st for a top 5 in this years draft?

No.. We arleady have an extremely young team. Two more this year is not what we need IMO. Part of me thinks we don't even need one more young guy. How about trading our pick this year and next for an impact player now? (When I say impact player, I don't mean Eddie Curry.. what a terrible trade by NY)
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