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re: 2014 Draft | Raps pick Bruno Caboclo & Deandre Daniels

what about Cleanthony Early Wichita State
NBA Position: Small Forward
Ht: 6-7
Wt 210
2014 Mock: 30 Big Board: 22

or CJ Fair at 20
ross needs to add 15 of beef
at 37 Jarnell Stokes a more refined Hansbrough at 59 get the bpa hopefully a PG
 

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I am pretty sold on Adreian Payne @ 20. I don't know if he will drop that far, but he seems like the exact type of player that would compliment this Raptors team.

The athletic stretch four measured with the third biggest wingspan at 7-4 after measuring a 7-foot wingspan in 2009 at the LeBron James Camp. He also has gained 25 pounds since then, which is impressive. Payne had one of the largest height-to-wingspan differentials with a plus-7. Payne's measurable (6-9 no shoes and 239 pounds) are similar to 2012 draftee Andrew Nicholson, who measured 6-8 ½ with no shoes and 234 pounds with a 7-4 wingspan. Payne's measurements aren't that far off from Derrick Favors' actually, as he's actually a quarter of an inch taller, with a similar wingspan and standing reach, but is six pounds lighter (Favors was much younger at the same stage though).
 

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re: 2014 Draft | Raps pick Bruno Caboclo & Deandre Daniels

what about Cleanthony Early Wichita State
NBA Position: Small Forward
Ht: 6-7
Wt 210
2014 Mock: 30 Big Board: 22

or CJ Fair at 20
ross needs to add 15 of beef
at 37 Jarnell Stokes a more refined Hansbrough at 59 get the bpa hopefully a PG
Not unless Early drops to 37. Which there is a chance.

I also like Clint Capela at 20.
 

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@ 59, I hope we make a move for Bachynski. 7'2 Center, 248lbs and from Calgary.

He spent 4 years at Arizona State and is a shot blocking machine. He looks a little slow at reading the game and has a tough time adjusting his feet quickly, but once he starts moving he is incredibly fluid in my opinion.

 

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I think we have to move up 5 spots up get Ennis as having to pay kl between 9-13 per year over 3-4 yrs means vasq maybe want 4-5 mill the mle range and us having to qualify patterson at a large increase, not sure if ujri will want to spend near the max cap number with him wanting to target kd next summer.

1st pick Pick ennis
2nd PF
3 C to play 3-8 min

sign a back up tough defender farooq-aminu and a vet c maybe cheap like kaman play 10-13 min
val 33 MPG kaman10 rookie 3-5
 

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@Junkyard Dog13 @RollWithEm @scdn @-James- @ozzzymandius @seifer0406

Twenty days to go until the draft, who do we all have?

With the 20th Pick in the NBA Draft, the Toronto Raptors select...

- Kyle Anderson - If Casey thinks he can work on this kids D, he will be the perfect fit for us. His offensive abilities (especially in transition) are exactly what this team needs and will push DeMar, Ross and Valanciunas to the next level. I'm excited by him because of all the players in the draft he brings something we sorely missed last year, the ability for easy 'get out and run' buckets.
- Tyler Ennis - Really good 'pure' PG that would compliment Val & Amir (PnR, Lobs etc). If we take him, I expect us to give Lowry another year running the show and then move him next summer and promoting Ennis to full time starter.
- Adreian Payne - Could fight with Amir for the PF spot and provide quality minutes as our first back up big man. He can shoot and handle the ball surprisingly well for a big guy too.
- TJ Warren - Would be the ideal compliment for Ross and give us an enormous amount of flexibility on the wing. I'm impressed with him and would be happy if he was our selection. He scores at a tremendous rate and is very active in doing so (cutting, floaters, offensive boards). His lack of perimeter D can be hidden by Ross and his big body can bang with those who try to push inside. They could be a dynamite duo.

With the 37th Pick in the NBA Draft, the Toronto Raptors select...

- Damien Inglis - Great potential due to size and defensive ability. Very raw and will need a couple of years.
- Glenn Robinson III - Will probably stick in the league as a solid rotation guy for many years. Not a bad thing at 37.
- KJ McDaniels
- Thanasis Antetokounmpo

With the 59th Pick in the NBA Draft, the Toronto Raptors select...

- Dwight Powell - Fluid and big. Could be a real steal late in the draft.
- Jordan Bachynski - Huge and somewhat mobile. Could be a solid 'Aaron Gray' type to have in the rotation.
- James Macadoo

That's a lot of talent to be adding to our roster. I am incredibly excited for this draft and would love to walk away with a selection of these guys above.

At 20, we will take BPA. If Kyle Anderson is still on the board, I think Masai will struggle to not select him, he brings such an exciting skillset (even if his D needs work). Ennis would be a great get, but with Lowry and GV, it means something will have to give, unless GV becomes a SG due to his size (6'6).

The 37th pick is the most difficult for me to predict. If we don't select a wing at 20, I presume we will look for a big bodied SF with this selection. Inglis and Thannis are probably very high on Masai's list.

At 59, I think we go big. Dwight Powell looks incredibly talented, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go much higher, he has that 'Plumlee' type explosiveness. I also really like Bachynski here, but he could skip out of thr draft completely and be brought in for Summer Camp, but that's always a risk with teams like San Antonio selecting after us.
 

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To tell you the truth I don't even know how you guys know these players or follow their progression!! I think it's awesome that you do and I'm totally looking forward draft day but I'm going to be watching and then running back here to see who these picks are, what you guys think, links to their exploits and then here more about how they're going to fit with us.
But until then brothers ... I know nuthin :-(
 

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Stay away from Elfrid Payton. I don't think he will turn out to be a productive NBA point guard. I see the Raptors getting a guy like T.J. Warren at that 20th spot. This team needs some scoring punch off the bench. Warren will bring that immediately. If he can develop defensively as well, he could really be a steal for the Raptors.
 

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Stay away from Elfrid Payton. I don't think he will turn out to be a productive NBA point guard. I see the Raptors getting a guy like T.J. Warren at that 20th spot. This team needs some scoring punch off the bench. Warren will bring that immediately. If he can develop defensively as well, he could really be a steal for the Raptors.
What post of mine do you see?

I changed out Payton and replaced him with Warren for the exact reason you've just listed.
 

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What post of mine do you see?

I changed out Payton and replaced him with Warren for the exact reason you've just listed.
Still shows Payton. This site is wonky when it comes to editing posts.
 

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@RollWithEm

With the 20th Pick in the NBA Draft, the Toronto Raptors select...

- Kyle Anderson - If Casey thinks he can work on this kids D, he will be the perfect fit for us. His offensive abilities (especially in transition) are exactly what this team needs and will push DeMar, Ross and Valanciunas to the next level. I'm excited by him because of all the players in the draft he brings something we sorely missed last year, the ability for easy 'get out and run' buckets.
- Tyler Ennis - Really good 'pure' PG that would compliment Val & Amir (PnR, Lobs etc). If we take him, I expect us to give Lowry another year running the show and then move him next summer and promoting Ennis to full time starter.
- Adreian Payne - Could fight with Amir for the PF spot and provide quality minutes as our first back up big man. He can shoot and handle the ball surprisingly well for a big guy too.
- TJ Warren - Would be the ideal compliment for Ross and give us an enormous amount of flexibility on the wing. I'm impressed with him and would be happy if he was our selection. He scores at a tremendous rate and is very active in doing so (cutting, floaters, offensive boards). His lack of perimeter D can be hidden by Ross and his big body can bang with those who try to push inside. They could be a dynamite duo.

With the 37th Pick in the NBA Draft, the Toronto Raptors select...

- Damien Inglis - Great potential due to size and defensive ability. Very raw and will need a couple of years.
- Glenn Robinson III - Will probably stick in the league as a solid rotation guy for many years. Not a bad thing at 37.
- KJ McDaniels
- Thanasis Antetokounmpo

With the 59th Pick in the NBA Draft, the Toronto Raptors select...

- Dwight Powell - Fluid and big. Could be a real steal late in the draft.
- Jordan Bachynski - Huge and somewhat mobile. Could be a solid 'Aaron Gray' type to have in the rotation.
- James Macadoo

That's a lot of talent to be adding to our roster. I am incredibly excited for this draft and would love to walk away with a selection of these guys above.

At 20, we will take BPA. If Kyle Anderson is still on the board, I think Masai will struggle to not select him, he brings such an exciting skillset (even if his D needs work). Ennis would be a great get, but with Lowry and GV, it means something will have to give, unless GV becomes a SG due to his size (6'6).

The 37th pick is the most difficult for me to predict. If we don't select a wing at 20, I presume we will look for a big bodied SF with this selection. Inglis and Thannis are probably very high on Masai's list.

At 59, I think we go big. Dwight Powell looks incredibly talented, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go much higher, he has that 'Plumlee' type explosiveness. I also really like Bachynski here, but he could skip out of thr draft completely and be brought in for Summer Camp, but that's always a risk with teams like San Antonio selecting after us.
 

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I think BPA at 20 as well. I'd be fine with Ennis, Warren or Anderson.
2nd round I see us potentially drafting some Euro Projects. Inglis is one I've posted before. Another Is Kristaps Porzingis. Check out his wingspan in this pic:



He's supposedly athletic, but raw and still needs to develop physically. But he's only turning 19 in August.
 

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I could see someone reaching for Porzingis. I hope Indiana finds a way to trade up for him.
 

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I think the Raps should take Clint Capela either with the 20th or the 37th if he's still available. He's a project but has a lot of potential to be a defensive big.
Amir's still young. Not sold on him? Isn't he your defensive big while JVal is your offensive one?
 

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Amir's still young. Not sold on him? Isn't he your defensive big while JVal is your offensive one?
I'm sold on both of them but our depth isn't that great. Right now our bench bigs include Patterson(If he stays), Hansbrough, Hayes, Novak. Out of the 4 only Patterson has earned consistent minutes and none of them are interior defenders.
 

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I'm sold on both of them but our depth isn't that great. Right now our bench bigs include Patterson(If he stays), Hansbrough, Hayes, Novak. Out of the 4 only Patterson has earned consistent minutes and none of them are interior defenders.
I still think wing depth is a bigger issue for this team.
 

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I think we're good enough to go best player available at all three picks and just build our depth. I think there are clearly some needs with this team, namely another active big and a "3 and D" wing player. We should be able to address one of those needs given the depth of this draft.

At 20 I like GR3, Adreian Payne, Jerami Grant, the Latvian guy or Capela. Not really fond of Kyle Anderson or Ennis though (sorry, GTA).

At 37 I wouldn't PJ Hairston or Thanassis or Markel Brown, but the guy I think I'd like to bring in most is Melvin Ejim, to make it up to Brampton. I think he could be the big wing we could use, and if his 3-point shooting comes along he could be a valuable piece.

At 59, I don't really care, he probably won't stick. If Ejim is there I'd like him otherwise maybe Patric Young? Bachynski?

@RollWithEm what makes you say this about Payton? I like his size and reported skillset, but obviously have not seen him play.
 
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