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From hearing more and more about Gibson there’s a lot that explains why his shooting was down a bit in the last two years. I’m not concerned in the least. Normally I’m a bit bearish on acl injuries, but these days with medical advancements some folks (not all) are able to spring back to 100% after surgery. the fact he was finding his stride in the last few games at West Carolina is very encouraging.

I’m still a bit confused as to whether he‘ll be eligible this coming season. I assumed not as it sounds like hes not a graduate but hearing from others it also sounds like he could be? Hard to keep all these various waivers straightened out these days. Also, I hear “two years eligibility left” a bit; was he granted a medical redshirt in what would’ve been his sophomore year, or are they just referring to the “bonus” year this past season everyone got, or does he really have 3 years left with the bonus?
 

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I’m still a bit confused as to whether he‘ll be eligible this coming season. I assumed not as it sounds like hes not a graduate but hearing from others it also sounds like he could be? Hard to keep all these various waivers straightened out these days. Also, I hear “two years eligibility left” a bit; was he granted a medical redshirt in what would’ve been his sophomore year, or are they just referring to the “bonus” year this past season everyone got, or does he really have 3 years left with the bonus?
A) He should be immediately eligible, with the NCAA's recent (like, "last week" recent) change in transfer policy. Players are granted one free transfer without having to sit out a year; subsequent transfers without a sit-out year are still possible with a waiver process. Since this is his first transfer, he should be good to go this fall.

B) "Two years of eligibility left" would refer to everyone getting a free pass on the 20-21 season. He played way too many games in either of the last two seasons to receive a medical hardship, but has both his conventional Senior season plus his Super Senior eligibility remaining.
 

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there has to be a couple guards leaving-A few are to good to get approx. 10 min. at best...
Respectfully, who has proven they're too good for that? Our best guards are the oldest guys (Shungu/Mazzulla) who made a specific point to return. After that...Duncan has regrettably regressed. Deloney has yet to click, and I'm not sure it's a minutes issue (which is so disappointing to me, because he was such a standout in HS against some good college-ready competition, and it has yet to translate). And the two freshmen are as unproven as it gets, especially coming off a pandemic season where game-style competition was scarce and development had the potential to be stunted across the board (As an aside, if there was a group of players who probably needed/deserved an extra year of NCAA eligibility, it's the HS graduating class of 2021, but I digress).

Yeah, we're oversaturated with guards. No doubt. The coaching staff brought them all here, it's their job to figure out what to do with them all. But honestly, after watching last season I'm not sure we have a lot of guys who are "too good" for anything.
 

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there has to be a couple guards leaving-A few are to good to get approx. 10 min. at best...
If someone can contribute a good 10 minutes, that would be very meaningful... After Benny and Justin, there's a drop off. Alamutu has some hype, so there's that. We'll see. Deloney needs to find his groove. From my vantage point, I expect Gibson to start.

My way too early starting 5:

Benny
Justin
Gibson
Powell
Davis
 

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Benny
Justin
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Powell
Davis
I would really like more offense than that.

Anyone have any idea how many minutes Davis and Murphy shared on the floor this past season?

I wouldn't mind seeing them play together more. I don't love the offense outside Davis and Gibson on that lineup above.

*Just came back to add that I think I really mean 3pt spacing instead of offense. All these guys are talented scorers, but having limited perimeter shooters around Davis really limits his low/high post play.
 

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I would really like more offense than that.

Anyone have any idea how many minutes Davis and Murphy shared on the floor this past season?

I wouldn't mind seeing them play together more. I don't love the offense outside Davis and Gibson on that lineup above.

*Just came back to add that I think I really mean 3pt spacing instead of offense. All these guys are talented scorers, but having limited perimeter shooters around Davis really limits his low/high post play.
Yeah, I'd like some more offense too, but this is what we have. Benny does offense and a lot of other things. Powell took a jump in that department.

Davis and Murphy played very limited minutes together. I too would like to see them on the floor together a bit more and see where it goes. My fear is that it might leave us vulnerable on the defensive end.
 

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Anyone have any idea how many minutes Davis and Murphy shared on the floor this past season?
I had some downtime at work, so I actually checked. Thankfully, it was a short season.

For context, Murphy and Davis both missed the Lowell series and Murphy missed the Albany series as well. In the 11 games both Davis and Murphy were active, Davis played 291 minutes. Murphy played 106.

By my calculations, the total amount of time Davis and Murphy were on the floor at the same time? 4 minutes, 33 seconds. Spread out across 3 games.

I too would like to see them on the floor more together. I'm also hoping there's a point where Murphy is actually 100% healthy, and we haven't seen "this is as healthy as he's going to get."

I wish I had more time, because it'd be interesting to see what the breakdown of our lineups were throughout the season, some measure of productivity, etc. But it was enough for me to just track these two guys.
 

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I had some downtime at work, so I actually checked. Thankfully, it was a short season.

For context, Murphy and Davis both missed the Lowell series and Murphy missed the Albany series as well. In the 11 games both Davis and Murphy were active, Davis played 291 minutes. Murphy played 106.

By my calculations, the total amount of time Davis and Murphy were on the floor at the same time? 4 minutes, 33 seconds. Spread out across 3 games.

I too would like to see them on the floor more together. I'm also hoping there's a point where Murphy is actually 100% healthy, and we haven't seen "this is as healthy as he's going to get."

I wish I had more time, because it'd be interesting to see what the breakdown of our lineups were throughout the season, some measure of productivity, etc. But it was enough for me to just track these two guys.
Thanks for doing that! What database did you use for that info? I know the UVM stat page is pretty basic.
 

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Thanks for doing that! What database did you use for that info? I know the UVM stat page is pretty basic.
No database, I did it the old-fashioned way. Pulled the boxscores from the 11 games they played in from UVM's site, went to the Play-By-Play tab on each one, and Ctrl-F'd "SUB" all the way through to jump to all the in-game substitutions. Then I just kept track of which one of them was in the game (which wasn't hard, because like 99.9% of the time they were subbed for each other). A little time-consuming, but not difficult.
 

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No database, I did it the old-fashioned way. Pulled the boxscores from the 11 games they played in from UVM's site, went to the Play-By-Play tab on each one, and Ctrl-F'd "SUB" all the way through to jump to all the in-game substitutions. Then I just kept track of which one of them was in the game (which wasn't hard, because like 99.9% of the time they were subbed for each other). A little time-consuming, but not difficult.
I would like to see that number go up to 4 minutes A GAME instead of all season. Obviously, if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. But you gotta try more than 4 minutes of it!
 

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Still no taker for final recruiting spot for basketball. Down to the wire. I see SF from Calif. we offered went to Wofford.
Yeah, we'll see if the "final" schollie gets used this season. I know we are/were also in on Finn Sullivan, another transfer shooting guard with two years of eligibility. I'm not sure if that interest has waned since we brought in Kam Gibson. I also haven't seen anything new about his recruiting at all, so presumably he's still out there/undecided.

Of course, there are STILL players entering the transfer portal. Even today. So these days it feels like this season's recruiting only ends when classes start in the fall.
 

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I'm wondering, with the "situation" going on at UVM, if the recruiting is being impacted by it. Anyone?
I don't think there's a quantifiable answer to this question and most of the answers you get from people will be what they want the answer to be.

I think it's especially difficult to try and assess now because we didn't have a lot of 2021 recruiting to do this spring (only two available scholarships, on a team already over its normal allotment of scholarships for the year), and we had already signed two guys last fall. You really have to look to 2022 and 2023, and we won't even begin to have a good read on that until maybe this time next year?
 

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My gut still says we're probably not going to use that scholarship this off-season, because I'm not sure what's available to us in terms of "value added" and we're not going to use it just to use it. We have 15 scholarship players as it is, and still only 200 total minutes a game to play them. We all have an idea of what we'd want in terms of an additional player, but I don't think that player exists in reality for us in late May.

But like I said, players are entering the transfer portal every...single...day. According to the Verbal Commits feed, 9 in the last 26 hours. I don't know a single thing about any of those players, and the odds that even one of them is right for us is probably less than minimal, but the point is windows are still opening this late into the off-season despite all of the doors that have been closing, so you never know.
 

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Would Michel from Rice get the scholarship is no one else is found? It would kind of be a slap in the face to him if they have an empty scholarship and don't give it to him. Or maybe it would go to one of the other, older walk ons?
 

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Would Michel from Rice get the scholarship is no one else is found? It would kind of be a slap in the face to him if they have an empty scholarship and don't give it to him. Or maybe it would go to one of the other, older walk ons?
I don’t view it that way at all. We owe nothing to that kid, he has not been seen vs any high level competition, we have a long history of successfully transitioning kids after they prove they deserve it AND the fact we now have a ton of scholarship guards. Best to let him learn the ropes and slot into the rotation after last year’s two starting guards graduate (Benny and Justin).
 
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