4 but that isnt the point(except me for being a smarta**) Some of the Statistics that dont show up are man v man defence in which Billups and Kobe are the best of the 4 you mentioned, and dont any1 say well dwade gets 2 steals and 2 blocks because that isnt all of defence. That is kind of like saying Allen Iverson is good at defence because he steals so well...wadeshaqeddie said:If Billups wins it would be a joke. Seriously, Pistons have 5 all stars in that lineup
as for this question, I think it should involve Steve Nash. He has a good chance at mvp yet Kobe and Wade are having better statistical seasons then he is.
Prince is close to an all star. I didnt mean it in the sense of all being selected to the team, but the sense that the team has 5 key players who each contribute around the same to the team. They are a traditional team in the sense that they all do the things needed. Now Billups might make the big shots and run the show, but that doesnt make him mvp of the league, when its questionable if he is more important than his 4 teammates, and others are putting up way superior stats in comparison. Great player, dont get me wrong, but not mvp quality.SHEED! said:4 but that isnt the point(except me for being a smarta**) Some of the Statistics that dont show up are man v man defence in which Billups and Kobe are the best of the 4 you mentioned, and dont any1 say well dwade gets 2 steals and 2 blocks because that isnt all of defence. That is kind of like saying Allen Iverson is good at defence because he steals so well...
The percentages there are really misleading imo because Billups game is all bout his great three point precentage and Wades is Slashing to the hole. Whats going to get a better percentage shooting a 20 foot something jumper or a layup and when you say weak side defence is defence but just cause someone can steal doesnt make them a good defender sure I agree weakside is defending but of all the times you miss a steal or block means the player has a great chance of blowing right by them. My Final Point is you cannot comparing scoring between a point gaurd and a combo 2 gaurd because one is supposed to set up and orchastrate the offence and the 2 gaurd is primarly supposed to score. While Billups may not be a traditional "star" which makes him unique imo. By his efficentcy at the point I dont know why you cant have him as a candidatewadeshaqeddie said:Prince is close to an all star. I didnt mean it in the sense of all being selected to the team, but the sense that the team has 5 key players who each contribute around the same to the team. They are a traditional team in the sense that they all do the things needed. Now Billups might make the big shots and run the show, but that doesnt make him mvp of the league, when its questionable if he is more important than his 4 teammates, and others are putting up way superior stats in comparison. Great player, dont get me wrong, but not mvp quality.
as for the defense, Wade is a good defender. Not as good man to man as the two, which I agree with you about, but he has the best help defense of the 3 (and dont say help d isnt important- Ben won dpoy's by being the best at that int he league) and alltogether on d I would rank Kobe first with the other 2 right behind at the same level. They are both solid at it.
as for offense, 19,9, and 3 on 41% compared to 27, 7, and 6 on 50%. Dont see much comparison there, except that Billups is on the better team, which definately helps, but Wade is leading a top 5 team himself
because he is a foward, and we are talking about making the all nba first team as guardRas said:wadeshaqeddie, if you're going to talk about Kobe and Wade having monster statistical seasons, how can you forget LeBron?
LBJ - 31.5 ppg/7.3 rpg/6.7 apg/1.56 spg/0.89 bpg/3.27 tpg/47.8 FG%/33.7 3P%
KB8 - 34.8 ppg/5.3 rpg/4.6 apg/1.78 spg/0.41 bpg/3.22 tpg/44.6 FG%/34.1 3P%
Flash - 27.9 ppg/5.8 rpg/6.7 apg/1.88 spg/0.8 bpg/3.45 tpg/49.6 FG%/17.6 3P%
My mistake then.wadeshaqeddie said:because he is a foward, and we are talking about making the all nba first team as guard
he is definately making it as foward, and has imo the best chance at mvp. But my arguement was with Billups, Wade, and I mentioned Nash as a possibility originally asked in this question. Foward wasnt being discussed, or Lebron definately woud of been mentioned
