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in no particular order:
tj ford
jacque vaughn
anthony carter
jamal tinsley
kirk hinrich
jason williams
jason kidd
jamal crawford
anthony johnson
 

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It's kind of sad because Jamal has a nice stroke. He's just really streaky. But his shooting is actually one of the reasons teams like him.

He's kind of the guy who doesn't belong on the list.
 

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Originally posted by <b>futuristxen</b>!
It's kind of sad because Jamal has a nice stroke. He's just really streaky. But his shooting is actually one of the reasons teams like him.

He's kind of the guy who doesn't belong on the list.
he does have a nice stroke actually much prettier than kirk's form. i really like his shooting form as he releases the ball at the top of his jump. i don't have problem with streak shooters but if you're averaging below 40% from the field that's just inexcusable.
 

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Originally posted by <b>hoops</b>!
in no particular order:
tj ford
jacque vaughn
anthony carter
jamal tinsley
kirk hinrich
jason williams
jason kidd
jamal crawford
anthony johnson
From the list above, it is safe to conclude that NBA teams should stay away from players who's first name or last name starts with J. Because those players don't actually have a J :D
 

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Don't forget Lebricklayer "No J " James.

He's got to be right up there.

A king of all that is fake and wrong with this game posing as basketball.
 

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Kirk Hinrich is shooting almost 40% from behind the arc, and his form is flawless. His FG% is down because he gets absolutely zero calls (especially if that haggard rat Jess Kersey is officiating) and his scoring via penetration is thus inhibited. Don't believe me? Ask Scott Skiles.

Hinrich's too good of a shooter not to raise his FG% considerably once he gets more respect around the league. He was a career 50%FG/43% 3PT shooter playing at the highest level in college.

Crawford is streaky, but he is a better number than the stats indicate. The Bulls backcourt is keyed on far too often and far too much due to injuries and inconsistent play in the frontcourt.
 

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Originally posted by <b>VincentVega</b>!
Kirk Hinrich is shooting almost 40% from behind the arc, and his form is flawless. His FG% is down because he gets absolutely zero calls (especially if that haggard rat Jess Kersey is officiating) and his scoring via penetration is thus inhibited. Don't believe me? Ask Scott Skiles.

Hinrich's too good of a shooter not to raise his FG% considerably once he gets more respect around the league. He was a career 50%FG/43% 3PT shooter playing at the highest level in college.

Crawford is streaky, but he is a better number than the stats indicate. The Bulls backcourt is keyed on far too often and far too much due to injuries and inconsistent play in the frontcourt.
the one thing i really like about hinrich is that he is such a complete player offensive player and shoots at a high percentage from the field when he was still at kansas. i don't know what happen to him but since entering the nba he completely turn into another player. all of a sudden he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. he can't hit mid-range J, trey, floaters n when he gets to the hole either get his sh!t [email protected] or couldn't finish.
 

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Originally posted by <b>hoops</b>!

i don't know what happen to him but since entering the nba he completely turn into another player.
No he didn't. And by "another player", do you mean starter for the Rookie Team?

all of a sudden he couldn't hit the broadside of a barn. he can't hit mid-range J, trey, floaters n when he gets to the hole either get his sh!t [email protected] or couldn't finish.
Read my post again. Hinrich's getting screwed on the calls, and this has forced him to be much less ineffective than he normally is close to the hoop. Skiles has mentioned this on more than one occasion -- he even got fined $7,500 because he said it too loud. And Hinrich is shooting very well from three. In fact, he's shooting better from downtown than Peja did last year.
 

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No list is complete without adding:

Antoine Walker

Its not often you see a guy who can even miss the rim on
layup attempts but he has been doing it. He looks like my
Grandmother at the line.

Thankfully he has been taking less and less shots for the Mavs
and magically they have gone 13-3 since he has taken a back
seat to the real shooters on the team.
 

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Lead guard stats for the myopic

Baron Davis: 38.6% FG, 30.5% 3PT, 7.8 apg
Allen Iverson: 39.5% FG, 29.2% 3PT, 6.3 apg (looks like AI needs more "practice")
Kirk Hinrich: 39.5% FG, 38.2% 3PT, 6.1 apg
Steve Francis: 40.3% FG, 30.0% 3PT, 5.9 apg
Steve Nash: 44.4% FG, 37.9% 3PT, 8.2 agp
Mike Bibby: 45.3% FG, 43.3% 3PT, 5.5 apg

Hinrich is in the middle of this group of elite guards in FG%, and he has the second-best 3PT% out of all of them as well. All of this while playing with a sporadic and injured frontcourt the vast majority of the season.
 

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why is kirk hinrich on the list. he is a great shooter. last night he had 23 points and 14 assists against the celtics.
 

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Originally posted by <b>alister</b>!
Did you see Crawford and especially Hinrih last night???
Hinrich went off for 23 points (6-8 from three) and 14 dimes last night. Crawford had 27 points (10-19 FG), 7 dimes and 4 boards.
 

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Crawford could build a whole country with his bricks not just a city.
 

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Re: Lead guard stats for the myopic

Originally posted by <b>VincentVega</b>!
Baron Davis: 38.6% FG, 30.5% 3PT, 7.8 apg
Allen Iverson: 39.5% FG, 29.2% 3PT, 6.3 apg (looks like AI needs more "practice")
Kirk Hinrich: 39.5% FG, 38.2% 3PT, 6.1 apg
Steve Francis: 40.3% FG, 30.0% 3PT, 5.9 apg
Steve Nash: 44.4% FG, 37.9% 3PT, 8.2 agp
Mike Bibby: 45.3% FG, 43.3% 3PT, 5.5 apg

Hinrich is in the middle of this group of elite guards in FG%, and he has the second-best 3PT% out of all of them as well. All of this while playing with a sporadic and injured frontcourt the vast majority of the season.
And they all miss more than Cassell. He just nails his jumpers. Give him some credit, that's good basketball.
 

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If you talk about "BRICKCITY", you have to mention Allen Iverson, and Jamal Mashburn. These two guys do put up a lot of points, but they take, and miss, a whole bunch of shots. I don't care what excuses come out for Iverson shooting below 40%, he shoots too damn much. Scoring 30 PPG doesn't make it alright to shoot below 40%, especially when the guy can get to the basket almost every possession.
 

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lol in the middle of elite guards and you exclude Marbury, Jason Williams, Payton, Andre Miller, Jason Kidd, Van Exel... and put in a shooting guard to make Hinrich look better.

Baron Davis is the only PG of those 10 that shoots worse than Hinrich.
 

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Originally posted by <b>BigAmare</b>!
Crawford could build a whole country with his bricks not just a city.
He's shooting on the average about the same as Baron Davis, Iverson, and Francis. He's pretty much been as good and maybe a little better than Francis this year. Yet Francis is an all-star.

It's like VincentVega said. The Bulls backcourt has been keyed on because with all the injuries, they've been the only chance for offense on the team. When you start an NBDL player, Antonio Davis, and JYD at times...that tends to speak to a lack of overall talent on the team. So teams stick with Jamal. And they foul Hinrich.

Either one would be shooting better on a better team.
 

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No , Crawford shoots hardly over 39% that is worse than Jason Kidd and only better than Baron Davis.

And Davis takes a huge amount of 3s.
 
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