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Any AE teams interested in visiting URI? Rhode Island will probably be looking for a buy opponent at home. Rhody already has seven OOC games away from Kingston and needs to secure one more home opponent.

URI 2019-2020 Known OOC Schedule (13 games allowed)
Home (6)
Alabama
Providence
Western Kentucky
Jamaica Classic Game #1 TBD
Jamaica Classic Game #2 TBD
TBD

Away (5)
Maryland
West Virginia
Florida Gulf Coast
Brown
Middle Tennessee State

Neutral Site - Montego Bay, Jamaica (2)
Jamaica Classic Game #3
Jamaica Classic Game #4

The two neutral site games in Jamaica will come from a pool of three opponents that already includes LSU and Utah State

OOC League breakdown for known possible URI opponents
Big Ten (@ Maryland)
Big 12 (@ WVU)
SEC (Alabama and possibly vs LSU)
Big East (PC)
MWC (possibly vs Utah St)
CUSA (Western Kentucky and @ MTSU)
Ivy (@ Brown)
ASUN (@ FGCU)
 

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Not sure about Maine's schedule, but I would be more than happy to serve as a team liaison (for any team really) to the Jamaica Classic.

* Edit - By the way, that is a really nice home schedule thus far for the Rams.
 

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Here's what's known for UVM's OOC at this moment:

Home:
Lipscomb
George Washington
Towson
BU

Away:
Yale
Harvard
Dartmouth
Northeastern
Bucknell
St Bonaventure
St Johns (Mohegan Sun Classic)
Virginia (Mohegan Sun Classic)
One more to schedule; Becker has indicated he hopes to schedule a high-major

Neutral:
Two games vs midmajors at Mohegan Sun

UVM is in stuck in this situation where the home-and-home series are always lopsided such that this year they'll mostly be away after having a lot of great home games last year. Next year will likely be the opposite with a ton of home games again and lots of scheduling openings as Lipscomb, Towson and GWU were only 2-year contracts while Bucknell and Bonaventure were 3-year contracts ending this season. They could always be extended though.

Personally I'd love to see a home-and-home with a high-major like Syracuse or (more likely) UConn as the new arena is still on pace to open by 2020.
 

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Personally I'd love to see a home-and-home with a high-major like Syracuse or (more likely) UConn as the new arena is still on pace to open by 2020.
I'd like to see that, but I'll be honest: I think the only way to get a Power 5 team to Burlington, even with the new arena, is to start sucking***. Not that there aren't exceptions, but unless it's a program highly confident in its abilities (i.e. not a rebuilding UConn or perpetually mediocre BC), to quote Ernie Johnson, "They don't want that smoke, young fella."

(***the other option is Becker somehow goes from UVM to a P5 job, and we put a home game in as part of his buyout.)
 

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Personally I'd love to see a home-and-home with a high-major like Syracuse or (more likely) UConn as the new arena is still on pace to open by 2020.
I'd like to see that, but I'll be honest: I think the only way to get a Power 5 team to Burlington, even with the new arena, is to start sucking***. Not that there aren't exceptions, but unless it's a program highly confident in its abilities (i.e. not a rebuilding UConn or perpetually mediocre BC), to quote Ernie Johnson, "They don't want that smoke, young fella."

(***the other option is Becker somehow goes from UVM to a P5 job, and we put a home game in as part of his buyout.)
Good luck getting UConn to travel to Vermont.

URI is still by far UConn's most played opponent of all time with 145 meetings (UNH is 2nd at 115) despite rarely playing in recent decades. Storrs is just 57 miles from Kingston. A long history and close proximity however matters little these days when it comes to scheduling. The last time that UConn ever played URI in the state of Rhode Island was back in 1985. It didn't matter that URI built a new 7,657 seat on campus arena in 2002 and it didn't matter that they would have played at the PCC before that. UConn will rarely schedule URI, let alone ever give Rhody a home game. The two teams have met just three times in the last 30+ years (all in CT).

I very much doubt that UVM will get the Huskies to visit Burlington, new arena or not.
 

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I'd like to see that, but I'll be honest: I think the only way to get a Power 5 team to Burlington, even with the new arena, is to start sucking***. Not that there aren't exceptions, but unless it's a program highly confident in its abilities (i.e. not a rebuilding UConn or perpetually mediocre BC), to quote Ernie Johnson, "They don't want that smoke, young fella."

(***the other option is Becker somehow goes from UVM to a P5 job, and we put a home game in as part of his buyout.)
Villanova may be a team that would come to Burlington, given our history with them, Massimino, Wright connection with Brennan. Don’t see any NE or NY program willing to make the trip/take the risk of coming up here. Would be nice to have a major program for the inaugural game.
 

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Rothstein tweeted the other day we’re playing Central Connecticut in the mid-major bracket at Mohegan.
 

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Villanova may be a team that would come to Burlington, given our history with them, Massimino, Wright connection with Brennan. Don’t see any NE or NY program willing to make the trip/take the risk of coming up here. Would be nice to have a major program for the inaugural game.
Here are all of the non-conference teams Villanova has played true road games against in the last five years:

Penn x3
St. Joseph's x2
Temple x2
LaSalle

Kansas
Connecticut
Purdue (Big 10/Big East Gavitt Games)

Unless Vermont is joining the Big Five, or the Big 10, or is UConn or Kansas, I don't see it happening.

My guess? UVM will have a nice matchup against Bucknell or Siena to open their arena. The days of Power 5 teams throwing a bone to a small or mid major are long gone. Except maybe Penn State or Rutgers. At which point, who cares.
 

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BU hosted Michigan when it opened Agganis Arena, but that’s BU and Boston obviously isn’t Burlington.

Chambers and Pikiell won’t bring their schools to Burlington lol I’m sure they don’t have an affinity for UVM and it’s a lose-lose situation for them.

UVM has been pretty good at getting A10 teams to Patrick- St. Joe’s, St. Bonaventure, and GW upcoming although that’s likely to be a one-time deal given MoJo is no longer coaching and obviously the architect of that. What other AE schools have been able to get home games with A10 schools recently?
 

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BU hosted Michigan when it opened Agganis Arena, but that’s BU and Boston obviously isn’t Burlington.

Chambers and Pikiell won’t bring their schools to Burlington lol I’m sure they don’t have an affinity for UVM and it’s a lose-lose situation for them.

UVM has been pretty good at getting A10 teams to Patrick- St. Joe’s, St. Bonaventure, and GW upcoming although that’s likely to be a one-time deal given MoJo is no longer coaching and obviously the architect of that. What other AE schools have been able to get home games with A10 schools recently?
You say "Boston obviously isn't Burlington" but I wonder how accurate that hot take is in these circumstances.

What was the attendance of that game? Over the last couple of years UVM's attendance has literally been 3x that of BU's.

Plenty of A10 schools visit AE schools. If Fordham's willing to come up to Orono I think UVM should be able to schedule a home-and-home with a team as stroried as Davidson. Not saying that's likely to happen, but just that it's in the realm of possibility.

Was URI hosting Stony Brook last year a home-and-home or a buy game?

Either way I'm not terribly enamored with more A10 or MAC home-and-homes. I'd like to see a high major; ideally 'Cuse but I won't complain about PC or BC either (and I will go out on a limb and say getting BC up to the new Arena is very realistic).
 

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You say "Boston obviously isn't Burlington" but I wonder how accurate that hot take is in these circumstances.

What was the attendance of that game? Over the last couple of years UVM's attendance has literally been 3x that of BU's.
Unsure why what I wrote is a "hot take"(?).

4,750. Probably one of the few times BU has ever had more than 2,000 at the Agganis for men's basketball.
 

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You say "Boston obviously isn't Burlington" but I wonder how accurate that hot take is in these circumstances.

What was the attendance of that game? Over the last couple of years UVM's attendance has literally been 3x that of BU's.

Plenty of A10 schools visit AE schools. If Fordham's willing to come up to Orono I think UVM should be able to schedule a home-and-home with a team as stroried as Davidson. Not saying that's likely to happen, but just that it's in the realm of possibility.

Was URI hosting Stony Brook last year a home-and-home or a buy game?

Either way I'm not terribly enamored with more A10 or MAC home-and-homes. I'd like to see a high major; ideally 'Cuse but I won't complain about PC or BC either (and I will go out on a limb and say getting BC up to the new Arena is very realistic).


Higher profile teams will consider going to Boston for a variety of reasons that Burlington-VT cannot offer: big city with fertile local recruiting area/large local alumni base/possibly close to home of one of its players/easy to travel to with several direct flight options

URI bought Stony Brook last year and will not make a return visit. URI's last visit to a current AE member was at Maine back in 1993.
 

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Higher profile teams will consider going to Boston for a variety of reasons that Burlington-VT cannot offer: big city with fertile local recruiting area/large local alumni base/possibly close to home of one of its players/easy to travel to with several direct flight options
This.

Obvious stuff is obvious which is why I didn't think I needed to write it.
 

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Every P5 team only travels via charter (or bus if close) so I don't see how the airport reason has any validity.

The point is no one really cares about BU basketball. Not folks in Boston, not fans of a P5 team. They could come off a 30-win season and they still won't be able to average more than 1,000 in attendance.

It's also worth noting that BU has the *highest enrollment* of ALL New England colleges (34,000); more than UConn, more than UMass-Amherst, more than any other school in New England. Yet they still can't get 3% of those students to go to a single basketball game.

What value does a P5 team find going to a school like that? If they wanted an easy win in Boston they'd go to BC.
 

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Every P5 team only travels via charter (or bus if close) so I don't see how the airport reason has any validity.

The point is no one really cares about BU basketball. Not folks in Boston, not fans of a P5 team. They could come off a 30-win season and they still won't be able to average more than 1,000 in attendance.

It's also worth noting that BU has the *highest enrollment* of ALL New England colleges (34,000); more than UConn, more than UMass-Amherst, more than any other school in New England. Yet they still can't get 3% of those students to go to a single basketball game.

What value does a P5 team find going to a school like that? If they wanted an easy win in Boston they'd go to BC.
I don't think the point is to talk about BU's basketball attendance problems, which is and has always been poor; BU actually no longer plays any of its home games at Agganis and hasn't since 2015. Also, Courtney Sims (RIP) was on the Michigan team and from Boston.

The point is Boston is still a more attractive place for a BCS team to want to go play than Burlington as RF1 highlighted. What are the benefits to a BCS school to go play at UVM, a game they also could conceivably lose?

Additionally, at least at the Agganis you have a facility that can hold 6000-7000 fans. This new arena won’t be able to hold 4700 fans. What's the new arena's max capacity going to be again, isn't it only a few hundred more than what Patrick is now? Not that the arena should be designed for one theoretical basketball game obviously, but again, what are the benefits for a P5 school to play at UVM? Like, we know what the benefits are for UVM, but for them?
 

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Plenty of A10 schools visit AE schools. If Fordham's willing to come up to Orono I think UVM should be able to schedule a home-and-home with a team as stroried as Davidson. Not saying that's likely to happen, but just that it's in the realm of possibility.
Davidson left the state of North Carolina twice in the non-conference last year: once to play Temple in Atlantic City, and once to play in the Charleston tournament.

All three non-conference road games last year were in-state: at Wake Forest, at North Carolina and at UNC-Wilmington.

Sure, competitively UVM is probably better than UNCW, but why would Davidson head to Burlington when it can stay in state and play UNCW? Or Charlotte? Or UNC Greensboro?

The list of A-10 teams willing to travel to a lower league school probably consists of Fordham, La Salle, and St. Bonaventure. Maybe George Mason if you are local. And GW if you are the coach's alma mater (although that ship has sailed).
 
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