Geeesh talk about a "Doom and Gloom" post.
And now, with the 1st pick, the Portland Trailblazers...
...get it wrong, somehow or other.
Honestly, it seems to me that, if the Blazers pick Aldridge, Morrison actually will become the next Bird. On the other hand, if they pick Morrison, Aldridge will almost certainly become the next Bosh. Regardless, whomever the Blazers pick, said pick seems to me almost certain to be the next Miles, Outlaw, or Bowie.
So maybe they trade the pick? Not so fast... Let's say they package it with Zach, Miles, or Theo, cash, and other players and/or picks to get someone like KG, Pierce or some other big name. Then they've either got a star refusing to show up or who shows up and gets some sort of career-ending injury, or some such.
At this point, I'm nearly ready to hope the balls bounce such that Portland ends up outside of the top three, just so we're not crushed. It's not even a lack of faith in Nash and company (though they hardly are inspiring confidence for me, either). It's more that it just seems like Murphy (and Allen's new spending policies) are determined to have his (their) way with us. I normally think of myself as even a glass 1/4 full kinda guy and, at some point the glass is just simply empty..... :sad:
Honestly, it seems to me that, if the Blazers pick Aldridge, Morrison actually will become the next Bird. On the other hand, if they pick Morrison, Aldridge will almost certainly become the next Bosh. Regardless, whomever the Blazers pick, said pick seems to me almost certain to be the next Miles, Outlaw, or Bowie.
So maybe they trade the pick? Not so fast... Let's say they package it with Zach, Miles, or Theo, cash, and other players and/or picks to get someone like KG, Pierce or some other big name. Then they've either got a star refusing to show up or who shows up and gets some sort of career-ending injury, or some such.
At this point, I'm nearly ready to hope the balls bounce such that Portland ends up outside of the top three, just so we're not crushed. It's not even a lack of faith in Nash and company (though they hardly are inspiring confidence for me, either). It's more that it just seems like Murphy (and Allen's new spending policies) are determined to have his (their) way with us. I normally think of myself as even a glass 1/4 full kinda guy and, at some point the glass is just simply empty..... :sad:
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If Aldridge passes the Pritchard test....which I hear includes the heart of a player then you draft him. He is 6'11" ish and seems to have a nice all around game. If the guy brings it then go for it.
If Noah comes out please disregard the above statement.
If Noah comes out please disregard the above statement.
Yeah, sorry. I guess I posted it hoping someone could find some ray of sunshine for me. And yes, I know that Webster has started looking better, that Outlaw and Khryapa might yet turn into valuable players, that Telfair's been shooting better of late, etc. And, the team is, rightfully I think, sitting at the bottom of the ESPN "Power" rankings, there's no sign that Allen's going to snap out of his haze, remember he's got lots of money, and right this listing galleon nor does it seem likely that he'll be able to sell any time soon. It feels like the team's become the Portland Clippers. How many years will it be before the team's even back to .500? I'm not trying to bait anyone here, I'm really asking and very much hoping that folks'll chime in with some tangible pieces of hope.sa1177 said:Geeesh talk about a "Doom and Gloom" post.
The hope lies in Allen selling the team and the Blazer's beginning a new era under new ownership.
Agreed, though that seems like such a slim hope at this point, given the situation with the Rose Garden, that the future seems pretty brutal to me.sa1177 said:The hope lies in Allen selling the team and the Blazer's beginning a new era under new ownership.
The paranoia expressed in the original post is understandable, given the Blazers' track record of (not) picking a winner. Bowie over Jordan. Telfair over Paul (Paul does have the early lead, but who knows how it will turn out in the long run).
From what I can tell, Paul Allen has traditionally played a very large role in our draft picks. I'm hoping that his interest level in the team is at an all-time low when the draft rolls around this time, and that he'll let the people who know the game of basketball do the picking. Pritchard and Nate could pick a winner, IMO. Maybe even Nash, if Allen isn't doing his thinking for him.
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From what I can tell, Paul Allen has traditionally played a very large role in our draft picks. I'm hoping that his interest level in the team is at an all-time low when the draft rolls around this time, and that he'll let the people who know the game of basketball do the picking. Pritchard and Nate could pick a winner, IMO. Maybe even Nash, if Allen isn't doing his thinking for him.
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Ya, but don't you sometimes get the same feeling?sa1177 said:Geeesh talk about a "Doom and Gloom" post.
Yes I am sure we all do...and for good reason.mgb said:Ya, but don't you sometimes get the same feeling?
allen will sell. ANTG! Its all Vulcan't's.
I think that the rep points are way too high they need to lower than this is getting silly.
there are 5 players that could help the blazers bargnani, morrison, noah, tyrus, aldridge any one of those will be very good for our team.
I think that the rep points are way too high they need to lower than this is getting silly.
there are 5 players that could help the blazers bargnani, morrison, noah, tyrus, aldridge any one of those will be very good for our team.
:biggrin:Utherhimo said:allen will sell. ANTG! Its all Vulcan't's.
I think that the rep points are way too high they need to lower than this is getting silly.
there are 5 players that could help the blazers bargnani, morrison, noah, tyrus, aldridge any one of those will be very good for our team.
[To get back on track]
. . . select LaMarcus Aldridge. I think he will show more in the workouts than he was able to playing for the horns. I expect his height will be decent with a long wing span. However, if he measures short, it could all change. Aldridge is a save pick, and should at least provide solid help at a key position.
I think Tyrus Thomas is too much of a project (risk). Even with his athletic ability, he still has a 'tweener build and not much of an offensive game (except dunking).
I don't see them taking Morrison first. Second or third maybe, but not first. Someone on ESPN asked the telling question the other day, "who is the best white american player in the NBA." You have to think a while don't you. That is why Morrison will not go first.
. . . select LaMarcus Aldridge. I think he will show more in the workouts than he was able to playing for the horns. I expect his height will be decent with a long wing span. However, if he measures short, it could all change. Aldridge is a save pick, and should at least provide solid help at a key position.
I think Tyrus Thomas is too much of a project (risk). Even with his athletic ability, he still has a 'tweener build and not much of an offensive game (except dunking).
I don't see them taking Morrison first. Second or third maybe, but not first. Someone on ESPN asked the telling question the other day, "who is the best white american player in the NBA." You have to think a while don't you. That is why Morrison will not go first.
I think a major part will be his workouts, because LaMarcus didn't really get to show his game at Texas because their guards to not pass the ball well into the post, and sometimes don't even pass the ball at all. In workouts, it will be all him, and IMO I think he'll shine.Reep said:[To get back on track]
. . . select LaMarcus Aldridge. I think he will show more in the workouts than he was able to playing for the horns. I expect his height will be decent with a long wing span. However, if he measures short, it could all change. Aldridge is a save pick, and should at least provide solid help at a key position.
I think Tyrus Thomas is too much of a project (risk). Even with his athletic ability, he still has a 'tweener build and not much of an offensive game (except dunking).
I don't see them taking Morrison first. Second or third maybe, but not first. Someone on ESPN asked the telling question the other day, "who is the best white american player in the NBA." You have to think a while don't you. That is why Morrison will not go first.
But then again, some of the Portland guards don't pass the ball all that well into the post either. So maybe it would be a perfect fit.Blazer Freak said:I think a major part will be his workouts, because LaMarcus didn't really get to show his game at Texas because their guards to not pass the ball well into the post, and sometimes don't even pass the ball at all. In workouts, it will be all him, and IMO I think he'll shine.
I think Jack is probably the weakest at doing this. But just watching a Texas game, their PG's do not give up the ball at all, and plays are rarely called for LaMarcus so he has to go get it himself. Telfair and Blake, IMO are above average at getting the ball to the posts.Reep said:But then again, some of the Portland guards don't pass the ball all that well into the post either. So maybe it would be a perfect fit.
With Morrison, alot of it comes down to his workouts against other prospective SG/SF's. I have no doubt that athletic guys like Rodney Carney will eat Morrison alive in 1-on-1 drills, and that will hurt his stock and IMO push him out of the top 3.
Aldridge comes down to measurements, wingspan and heart. I think he will come out to a legit 6'11, and show off his tremendous wingspan. His passion is the only thing that makes anyone question whether or not he is the best player in this years draft.
Tryus Thomas I simply dont want. I could care less for another athletic freak that really is unrefined. He is a monster shotblocker and a good rebounder, but his jumper is worse than Joakim and he will never be a SF.
Aldridge comes down to measurements, wingspan and heart. I think he will come out to a legit 6'11, and show off his tremendous wingspan. His passion is the only thing that makes anyone question whether or not he is the best player in this years draft.
Tryus Thomas I simply dont want. I could care less for another athletic freak that really is unrefined. He is a monster shotblocker and a good rebounder, but his jumper is worse than Joakim and he will never be a SF.
Give up. What's the answer?Reep said:"who is the best white american player in the NBA." You have to think a while don't you.
Possibly, but wouldn't that be incredibly short-sighted? Since the rule changes, the NBA is lot more like the college game, with much fewer isolations. Besides which, if I remember from last year, it tends to be a lot more 2-on-2 than 1-on-1, and I'm sure Morrison can do okay in those situations.ThatBlazerGuy said:With Morrison, alot of it comes down to his workouts against other prospective SG/SF's. I have no doubt that athletic guys like Rodney Carney will eat Morrison alive in 1-on-1 drills, and that will hurt his stock and IMO push him out of the top 3.
Workouts are of limited use because you're not allowed to have the prospective draftees go against actual NBA players. And if you can't see what you're getting from the many many hours of film of Morrison in college, how will that much more help?
Again, how can you "measure" "heart"? The knock on him is that he gets up for one game and not the next. I'm sure he can be energetic for one workout.Aldridge comes down to measurements, wingspan and heart. I think he will come out to a legit 6'11, and show off his tremendous wingspan. His passion is the only thing that makes anyone question whether or not he is the best player in this years draft.
Depends what he measures as. If he's 6'9" and 215, then he's the same height as McDyess and just 5lbs lighter (and a year younger) than McDyess when he was drafted. Buck Williams was 6'8" and 220, and he battled Karl Malone to a standstill on a regular basis. Besides, Tyrus Thomas just shot up like a weed - I think he's going to fill out a little, don't you?Tryus Thomas I simply dont want. I could care less for another athletic freak that really is unrefined. He is a monster shotblocker and a good rebounder, but his jumper is worse than Joakim and he will never be a SF.
By the way, "athletic freak" "unrefined" and "monster shotblocker and good rebounder" described Amare Stoudemire.
I'll take an incredibly intense Thomas over a lackadaisical Aldridge anytime.
or not. While he might not be able to play defense to keep with those guys, they also have to keep up with his offensive game too. it's not all about 1 on 1 drills anyways.ThatBlazerGuy said:With Morrison, alot of it comes down to his workouts against other prospective SG/SF's. I have no doubt that athletic guys like Rodney Carney will eat Morrison alive in 1-on-1 drills, and that will hurt his stock and IMO push him out of the top 3.
because the game is played 5 on 5...
I think we'll have to wait to see where we pick, and who is available before it's worth saying player is good or bad, or whatever.Aldridge comes down to measurements, wingspan and heart. I think he will come out to a legit 6'11, and show off his tremendous wingspan. His passion is the only thing that makes anyone question whether or not he is the best player in this years draft.
Tryus Thomas I simply dont want. I could care less for another athletic freak that really is unrefined. He is a monster shotblocker and a good rebounder, but his jumper is worse than Joakim and he will never be a SF.
I like Aldridge. I don't think that questioning his heart is the right thing to do with him. To me when I watch more than anything I see a player that let's the game come to him, something that is usually considered an attribute in that he isn't disrupting the flow of the game. He's not the aggressive energetic player that a guy like Morrison is. His court demeanor reminds of another guy who put up similar numbers as a sophmore...Tim Duncan. Remember back when Tim came in the league everyone questioned wether he had the fire to be a superstar?
I think Aldridge will be better in the NBA, where the tempo suits a big man better, than he was college.
I think Aldridge will be better in the NBA, where the tempo suits a big man better, than he was college.
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