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no disrespect to larry...i see where hes coming from...but put 2 or 3 hall of famers around paul so hes not getting double teamed every trip down the floor and we'd be able to see what paul is really capable of...its not pauls fault that he has no help around him to get into the playoffs...thats dannys :biggrin:
 

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Causeway said:
And you know it's not Danny's fault :).


eh it felt like a good point to throw a jab in there :biggrin:
 

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Causeway said:
again Bird in his rookie year took a 29-53 to 61-21. Un-freakin-believable. He did not just walk onto a championship team.


im not exactly sure about the personell at that time but i know that tim duncan did the same thing but it was a little skewed because david robinson was hurt the year before and came back with duncan...was it all bird or did others join him his rookie year?
 

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ehmunro said:
The biggest change between the 1978-79 team and the 1979-80 team was the coaching and defense. Dave Cowens was an awful coach, and the situation wasn't made easier by the chaos of constant trades and the collection of cokeheads he was saddled with. The Celtics unloaded Curtis Rowe, Marvin Barnes, and Bob McAdoo (who was fine when he arrived here, but functionally useless after a couple of months with the coke dealing Barnes). In '79 Tiny Archibald was hobbled by injury, averaging a mediocre 11/4 line in part time duty in sixty plus games and Rick Robey didn't join the Celtics until January of '79. The next year they had stabilised the roster, got Archibald back to run the offense (he played 2800+ minutes that year, posting a 14/8 line, as opposed to the 1600+ minutes in '79 ), and added M.L. Carr & Gerald Henderson for depth. Factor in the better coaching and they were set to make a run. And, yes, having a hall of fame point guard uninjured was a big upgrade.


thanks for the info ehmunro...not taking anything away from larry and how much he helped the team to such a great record in his rookie year but apparently like duncan he had a little bit of help...



agoo101284 said:
How many players has Pierce played with who have Hall of Fame skills? Antoine and Ricky Davis have been the best players Pierce has played with and both excelled with Pierce as a teammate. But those guys are not Hall-Of-Fame talents.


oooooooo i beg to differ...hahaha
 

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ehmunro said:
Are they planning on opening an "Ugly Jumpshot" wing in the Hall of Fame sometime soon?


hahahahaha...hey...it usually went in when it needed to didnt it???
 
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