ABM said:....simply remind yourselves of the condition of Kobe and the Lakers!
Somehow you'll soon start to feel better. :yes:
We usually agree, Ed, but I'm not sure that I'm with you on this one.Ed O said:The Lakers are in better shape than the Blazers in the near term and, I believe, in the long run. Schadenfreude only goes so far, and while the Lakers had farther to fall than the Blazers, we're still looking up at them in the standings.
Well, IF Telfair's a top-5 PG, then Portland's roster looks a lot better, and he's more valuable than either Odom or Zach... so I'd prefer Portland's roster. I just don't see that happening.sanfranduck said:Agree except for one thing ... I'd take Zbo over Odom.
Assume for a second that Telfair turns into a top-5 point guard and Zbo goes back to his last-year form. A big stretch I know, but bear with it for a moment. Between those two, you've got two very unique commodities. You can find a swing man that will give you similar skills, albeit on a lower level, as Kobe, but it's much harder to find a point/low block combination like TF and Zbo. Combine that with Portland's dearth of young players and better draft pick and I think it makes for at the very least an interesting debate.
I also think that as long as Odom is on the same court as Kobe, LA will never realize his full abilities.
Kobe is not nothing without Shaq. He's arguably a top-five player, with or without Shaq. He's better than any player the Blazers have had since Drexler (and he may very well be better than any Blazer since pre-injury Walton, though that's highly debatable).zagsfan20 said:I love how this season has proven that Kobe is nothing without Shaq.....
Top players have also said they wouldn't play in Chicago. I wouldn't say it's particularly telling.YardApe said:LA is also a city that attracts top talent for many different reasons.
Top players have actually said they wont play in Portland.
I think that is very telling!
Ed O said:The Lakers are better off because Kobe's a top 10 NBA player. Maybe top 5. And he's still only 26 years old.
They also have Lamar Odom, who's still only 25 and whom I prefer to any player on the Blazers' roster.
Those two players alone make the Lakers in a better position than the Blazers. I don't see any players on the Blazers that are likely to become as good as either of them, let alone both of them.
The Lakers aren't great, and they don't have the depth of prospects that the Blazers do, but their core is just do much better than I would have much more confidence with their roster moving forward than Portland's.
Minstrel said:Kobe is not nothing without Shaq. He's arguably a top-five player, with or without Shaq. He's better than any player the Blazers have had since Drexler (and he may very well be better than any Blazer since pre-injury Walton, though that's highly debatable).
You don't have ears!? I'm sorry to, um, hear that.Storyteller said:the Lakers have less a chance of signing Ming in 2 years than I have of growing ears this weekend.
Well, I'm only talking about on the court. Off the court is an entirely other story.RipCity9 said:Blasphemy! There is no way that punk is better than the Glide - if for no other reason than he didn't force his team to trade the league's most dominant player.