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Discussion Starter · #1 ·
why not:

Chicago trades: PF Corie Blount (4.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 17.1 minutes)
SG Jamal Crawford (17.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 5.5 apg in 34.8 minutes)
PF Antonio Davis (8.7 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 1.6 apg in 32.2 minutes)
Chicago receives: SF Caron Butler (7.5 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 28.8 minutes)
SG Eddie Jones (18.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes)
PG Frank Williams (4.4 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.2 apg in 12.8 minutes)
Change in team outlook: -0.4 ppg, -8.7 rpg, and -1.2 apg.

Miami trades: SF Caron Butler (7.5 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 28.8 minutes)
SG Eddie Jones (18.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes)
Miami receives: PF Othella Harrington (4.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 38 games)
C Kurt Thomas (11.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 49 games)
SF Shandon Anderson (7.5 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 48 games)
Change in team outlook: -2.7 ppg, +7.1 rpg, and -1.2 apg.

New York trades: PF Othella Harrington (4.3 ppg, 2.8 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.3 minutes)
PG Frank Williams (4.4 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.2 apg in 12.8 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (11.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 32.7 minutes)
SF Shandon Anderson (7.5 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 23.4 minutes)
New York receives: PF Corie Blount (4.8 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 1.1 apg in 38 games)
SG Jamal Crawford (17.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 5.5 apg in 47 games)
PF Antonio Davis (8.7 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 1.6 apg in 48 games)
Change in team outlook: +3.1 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and +2.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED
 

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Not a bad idea in theory, but there's been alot of concern lately about Butler's knees- he's been a huge dissapointment this season. I'll pass.
 

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as a heat fan, i woulnt do it...if we give up both caron and ej, we would want more than just Tjomas...Anderson has the worst contract in the nba....id rather keep EJ and his contract, because he actually gets in done on the court
 

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Originally posted by <b>Louie</b>!
Not a bad idea in theory, but there's been alot of concern lately about Butler's knees- he's been a huge dissapointment this season. I'll pass.
Well,he's getting better.Jan numbers much better then dec.
 

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The Heat get ripped off big time in your deal. Butler and Jones are both better than Kurt Thomas. The only reason the heat would consider it, would be to gain some size in the middle with Thomas. Caron Butler is too young to give up on this quickly. I think he'll even be a better player than crawford in a couple years.
 

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Sorry heat fans,how about this one:

Chicago trades: SF Chris Jefferies (3.5 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 6.3 minutes)
SG Jamal Crawford (17.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 5.5 apg in 34.8 minutes)
PF Antonio Davis (8.7 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 1.6 apg in 32.2 minutes)
Chicago receives: PG Frank Williams (4.4 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.2 apg in 12.8 minutes)
SF Caron Butler (7.5 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 28.8 minutes)
SG Eddie Jones (18.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +0.9 ppg, -4.8 rpg, and -0.5 apg.

New York trades: SF Keith Van Horn (16.7 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 33.9 minutes)
SF Shandon Anderson (7.5 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 23.4 minutes)
C Kurt Thomas (11.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 32.7 minutes)
PG Frank Williams (4.4 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 2.2 apg in 12.8 minutes)
New York receives: SG Jamal Crawford (17.2 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 5.5 apg in 47 games)
PF Antonio Davis (8.7 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 1.6 apg in 48 games)
PF Brian Grant (9.0 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 44 games)
Change in team outlook: -5.1 ppg, -0.0 rpg, and +0.9 apg.

Miami trades: PF Brian Grant (9.0 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 1.0 apg in 31.3 minutes)
SF Caron Butler (7.5 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.7 apg in 28.8 minutes)
SG Eddie Jones (18.4 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.6 minutes)
Miami receives: SF Chris Jefferies (3.5 ppg, 0.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 15 games)
SF Keith Van Horn (16.7 ppg, 7.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 43 games)
SF Shandon Anderson (7.5 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 1.2 apg in 48 games)
C Kurt Thomas (11.4 ppg, 9.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 49 games)
Change in team outlook: +4.2 ppg, +4.8 rpg, and -0.4 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

Heat get rid of both long turm contracts,Get a C and KVH.

NY bulk up(Zeke said he wanted big men) with Grant and A.D (tough combo),and Zeke gets Jamal.

Bulls get EJ to play D next to kirk and score,and a SF with CB.nice backup for kirk in FW.
 

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I am guessing that Miami would not do this trade. They have a chance to make a run for the playoffs. I don't see them trading Jones and Butler at this time.
 

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Wade has taken EJ's place.

Heat roster:

Alston
Wade
Lamar
KVH
Kurt

I believe better then today
 

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I think this lineup is better.

PG - Wade
SG - Jones
SF - Butler
PF - Odom
C - Grant

Bench - Skip and Haslem
 

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As much as u try to twist it Wade is best at SG,and gonna be one of the best in that position in the league.

Thats why Rafer is used so much at PG.

KVH>>>Grant

frontline of KVH+Lamar+Kurt does not leave many rebounds for oposition(and Wade)

and Heat get rid of their 2 terrible contracts,for one half as bad (shandon)
 

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This trade does not really work for Miami or New York. What Miami needs is a real center and a point guard, and this trade does not give them either.

New York wants Crawford, but this trade saddles them with two non athletic power forwards/undersized centers as well. It also leaves them without an option at small forward.
 

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Originally posted by <b>Darius Miles Davis</b>!
This trade does not really work for Miami or New York. What Miami needs is a real center and a point guard, and this trade does not give them either.

New York wants Crawford, but this trade saddles them with two non athletic power forwards/undersized centers as well. It also leaves them without an option at small forward.
Kurt plays C.

for Heat - getting rid of really awful contracts.

for NY - Zeke would do what it takes to get what he wants,and he wants JC.he does not want Shandon or KVH,but i agree it leaves a hole at SF.they can get ERob for free:grinning:
 

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Originally posted by <b>bullet</b>!


Kurt plays C.

for Heat - getting rid of really awful contracts.

for NY - Zeke would do what it takes to get what he wants,and he wants JC.he does not want Shandon or KVH,but i agree it leaves a hole at SF.they can get ERob for free:grinning:
Miami gets rid of horrible contracts but also get 2 back in return. Plus they get nothing back for EJ and Caron except for Crawford.
I doubt the Knicks would do it also.
 

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jc+AD for caron bulter+EJ, forget NY, this is the trade that makes sense for both taems.

JC+wade=a dynamic interrchangeable backcourt, both are capable of pg/sg duty, and AD allows grant to return to his natural position PF and odom to SF.

jc
wade
odom
grant
AD

kirk
EJ
caron bulter
chandler
Curry

i believe salary match too. AD/Ej are max players and JC and CB are in their rookie salary
 

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Originally posted by <b>Sith</b>!
jc+AD for caron bulter+EJ, forget NY, this is the trade that makes sense for both taems.

JC+wade=a dynamic interrchangeable backcourt, both are capable of pg/sg duty, and AD allows grant to return to his natural position PF and odom to SF.

jc
wade
odom
grant
AD

kirk
EJ
caron bulter
chandler
Curry

i believe salary match too. AD/Ej are max players and JC and CB are in their rookie salary
Actually u got me there Sith,U're right,if it can be done,cause then we adress both teams problems.
Heat get a C+PG
Bulls get SG+SF

and u're right it works.
 

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i think if i were the heat, i would do the trade, AD vs EJ is about a washup in turn of usefulness to the heat, JCis the key here. he and wade are gonna be awesome in the backcourt. and apparently CB is not as good as we thought he is.
 
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