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i hope they can make the playoffs so they would have to obtain at least 41 wins in the weak east but if they stay healthy all year all year i think they can obtain that mark
 

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It's hard to believe The Bulls can play .500 ball when this will be the first full year all the key peaces play together. I say they struggle at first, make a run at the playoffs but fall short. Of course, if a few teams are hurt all year in the east, who knows...
 

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I don't think JWill and Jalen will let their team lose 50 games
 

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Thirty two. Also we will have a chance to win more games than that but our youth will hurt us. Compare us to the clippers of the year before last.
 

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I think that we should all be thrilled if we win 35 games.

I think Cartwright will set the .500 goal, which, unless they get some other big name, will be too high a goal to reach this season. The kids will just have to believe they can win every game, and not blow a lot of big leads like they did last season.

My prediction is that we will win 30 games this year (and like I said before will be ecstatic if they win 35 games). I believe that they could be a #6-8 seed in the 2003-2004 season barring injury, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just miss the playoffs again.

Jay Williams third season, and the high schoolers fourth season should be a great one I think.

That said, anything is possible in the weak East, even this season. If the kids did make the playoffs this year, I wouldn't keel over, although I don't think it will happen.

I'm a die hard Bulls fan, and will cheer them on every game. I'm sick of going to games where people just sit there and watch, and cheer more for the intermission games and the Dunkin Donuts race rather than the game. I'm just trying to be a realist here.
 

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I think with Jay and Jalen on board they won't have to worry too much about blowing big leads. After the trade last year, they won almost all of their close games cause of the clutch factor of Rose; their only problem was staying in the games through the first 3 QTRS. With Jay, they should be able that better. I can see them in the playoffs easily.
 

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I'm really hoping for 35 wins, though its a stretch. The East is weak, but top to bottom will be very competitive.

The Cream: New Jersey, Boston, and yes Indiana

The Posers: Detroit, New Orleans, Philly

Talented headcases: Milwaukee, New York, Miami

I don't think the Bulls have the defensive firepower to get 40 wins and a playoff bid. Our perimeter D has been porous ever since Artest got traded. The kids need work staying out of foul trouble too. Until Tyson and Eddy can consistently be a force down low (maybe 1-2 years from now) on defense, this team won't be in the playoffs, no matter how many points the backcourt scores. Playoff basketball is defensive basketball, and the East games are always low scoring scrums anyways.

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Whoa! Not so fast! LOL

Originally posted by Vin Diesel
I'm really hoping for 35 wins, though its a stretch. The East is weak, but top to bottom will be very competitive.

The Cream: New Jersey, Boston, and yes Indiana

"*** ALL THREE of these teams self destructed last season. No way indiana will out duel the Bulls, aging vets such as reggie and mckey will prove to be their shortcomings. Boston (will NOT win as many games as they won last season; they caught a few teams by surprise and even the Bulls played well against them!)and New Jersey especially were overachievers last season. The leagues other teams will find ways to exploit the fragile team chemistry of new jersey nets and K-mart."

The Posers: Detroit, New Orleans, Philly

"***These are what I would call "incomplete" teams. Detroit has the SAME problems as the Bulls as far as gelling. Plus, they do not have as many bright spots as the Bulls, in my opinion. New Orleans? They will be in disarray with the new town and with their point guard situation testy to say the least. Philly, hmph, Iverson or Larry Brown just MIGHT not be there....could happen?"

Talented headcases: Milwaukee, New York, Miami

"***Three teams that do not know what direction they are headed in. George Karl has all but lost this team. They obviously self distructed last season and it will take a coaching change to get them headed in the right direction. New york....geez, this team is a mess. Just because you add mcdyess, it does not mean squat; the rest of the team is more disorganized than the Bulls were under floyd! Now, Miami, here is an interesting situation....this could be the sleeper in the east."



"***This prediction is based on no serious injuries to the Bulls and is made regardless of EROB's participation.

I seriously expect the Bulls to climb into the 7th playoff spot in this not only weak conference, but, unorganized to boot!

45 wins guys....count on it."

I don't think the Bulls have the defensive firepower to get 40 wins and a playoff bid. Our perimeter D has been porous ever since Artest got traded. The kids need work staying out of foul trouble too. Until Tyson and Eddy can consistently be a force down low (maybe 1-2 years from now) on defense, this team won't be in the playoffs, no matter how many points the backcourt scores. Playoff basketball is defensive basketball, and the East games are always low scoring scrums anyways.

"Repeating myself, but, the rest of the eastern conference will lend its shaky hand to help support the Bulls and their run this season.....the Bulls are pumped to be successful and with the addition of just a couple vets, these baby bulls will surprise a LOT of folks in and around the NBA. Just a gut feeling."

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Gotta love it when people quote you and write things within your post. Nice job there guy.

BamaBull, if the Bulls win 45 games next season (and qualify for the 7th playoff spot as you say).... you fly your sorry butt to Chicago and I will treat you to a dinner and playoff game (the Bulls first round). We can go for deep dish (shi-kaaa-ga baby), ribs (Carsons?) or any of the Second City's best. Also, this deal is on for your prediction that Indiana will finish worse than Chicago. If either 1) 45 wins happen or 2) Indiana finishes worse than the Bulls, you have a phat dinner waiting for you in Chicago.

Since none of the above will likely happen, I just ask that you put your tail between your legs and take it like a man when it doesn't happen. Optimism is great, but a 24 win turnaround??? We shall see. I will laugh last and laugh best.

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I accept.

Originally posted by Vin Diesel
Gotta love it when people quote you and write things within your post. Nice job there guy.

BamaBull, if the Bulls win 45 games next season (and qualify for the 7th playoff spot as you say).... you fly your sorry butt to Chicago and I will treat you to a dinner and playoff game (the Bulls first round). We can go for deep dish (shi-kaaa-ga baby), ribs (Carsons?) or any of the Second City's best. Also, this deal is on for your prediction that Indiana will finish worse than Chicago. If either 1) 45 wins happen or 2) Indiana finishes worse than the Bulls, you have a phat dinner waiting for you in Chicago.

Since none of the above will likely happen, I just ask that you put your tail between your legs and take it like a man when it doesn't happen. Optimism is great, but a 24 win turnaround??? We shall see. I will laugh last and laugh best.

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I have heard so much about chicago food and cannot wait!!! wow....free dinner and tickets to the playoffs? (Hmmmm...now how can I get this notarized? LOL) You send me the tickets (one for my wife too, eh? ) and I WILL fly up there!!! Then IF I cannot find you, we will spring for our own meal! LOL

I truly think even the weak east is overrated. I watched indiana a few times....I am not greatly impressed with the team OR the coach. he was a pretty decent guard...but coach or GM....he sucks.
 

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let's hope for the best!

Originally posted by BamaBull


I have heard so much about chicago food and cannot wait!!! wow....free dinner and tickets to the playoffs? (Hmmmm...now how can I get this notarized? LOL) You send me the tickets (one for my wife too, eh? ) and I WILL fly up there!!! Then IF I cannot find you, we will spring for our own meal! LOL

I truly think even the weak east is overrated. I watched indiana a few times....I am not greatly impressed with the team OR the coach. he was a pretty decent guard...but coach or GM....he sucks.
If Chicago wins 45, I'll be the overjoyed. I've suffered through (as many other fans have too) the dismantling of the dynasty, retirement of the best player ever -MJ, four of the worst losing seasons in NBA history, and all of Jerry K's mumblings and fumblings. I think the Bulls will be good very soon, just not next year.

Hey, I'm not going anywhere on this one... so if it happens, it happens. I'm a man of my word, and a playoff birth would be well worth it!!

Btw, I still think Indiana will be a beast next season. Isaiah Thomas blows as a coach (Bird was much better), but they have the pieces to contend. If they put it all together, they will be scary.

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jay and jalen will give us something we havent had in 4 years which is VERY important to win games in the league, and thats the clutch factor, these two guys are proven at crunch time, and can win when the game is on the line

that houston team last year wasnt the most talented team besides francis,(mobley was mediocre at the time), but they won 45 games because both francis and mobley are guys who can score and make things happen when it matters, i think the bulls can be as good as them, especially since jalen is better then both those guys were at the time, and especially since we're in the east

what was the lineup for that team?

-francis
-mobley
-anderson
-taylor
-hakeem

we can match them

and i dont even wanna bring up the 2000 orlando magic



and truebluefan, why do you compare this years team with the clippers of two years ago? i would compare them with last years clippers....

-elton vs. jalen...... jalen is more clutch and is battle-tested
-Qrich vs. jamal.......Q worked very hard last summer and emerged as one of the leagues brightest stars, jamal can do the same if he works as hard
-miles vs. chandler....... push
-odom didnt play much so he dosent count
-mcinnis vs. jay....since jay is a rookie, its a push for now
-erob vs. magette.....push
-curry vs. kandi....curry is a better scorer but kandi is the better defender
-hassel vs. dooling....hassel is better
-fizer is the difference here, he is the x factor and can easily drop 15ppg this year

for the record, i predict 39 games
 

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Originally posted by JOHNNY_BRAVisimO
jay and jalen will give us something we havent had in 4 years which is VERY important to win games in the league, and thats the clutch factor, these two guys are proven at crunch time, and can win when the game is on the line

that houston team last year wasnt the most talented team besides francis,(mobley was mediocre at the time), but they won 45 games because both francis and mobley are guys who can score and make things happen when it matters, i think the bulls can be as good as them, especially since jalen is better then both those guys were at the time, and especially since we're in the east

what was the lineup for that team?

-francis
-mobley
-anderson
-taylor
-hakeem

we can match them

and i dont even wanna bring up the 2000 orlando magic



and truebluefan, why do you compare this years team with the clippers of two years ago? i would compare them with last years clippers....

-elton vs. jalen...... jalen is more clutch and is battle-tested
-Qrich vs. jamal.......Q worked very hard last summer and emerged as one of the leagues brightest stars, jamal can do the same if he works as hard
-miles vs. chandler....... push
-odom didnt play much so he dosent count
-mcinnis vs. jay....since jay is a rookie, its a push for now
-erob vs. magette.....push
-curry vs. kandi....curry is a better scorer but kandi is the better defender
-hassel vs. dooling....hassel is better
-fizer is the difference here, he is the x factor and can easily drop 15ppg this year

for the record, i predict 39 games
My comparison to LAC of two years ago was not a player for player comparison, but the fact that their team surprised a lot of teams that year and won 31 games. That is what i meant.
 

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Originally posted by JOHNNY_BRAVisimO
jay and jalen will give us something we havent had in 4 years which is VERY important to win games in the league, and thats the clutch factor, these two guys are proven at crunch time, and can win when the game is on the line

that houston team last year wasnt the most talented team besides francis,(mobley was mediocre at the time), but they won 45 games because both francis and mobley are guys who can score and make things happen when it matters, i think the bulls can be as good as them, especially since jalen is better then both those guys were at the time, and especially since we're in the east

what was the lineup for that team?

-francis
-mobley
-anderson
-taylor
-hakeem

we can match them

and i dont even wanna bring up the 2000 orlando magic



and truebluefan, why do you compare this years team with the clippers of two years ago? i would compare them with last years clippers....

-elton vs. jalen...... jalen is more clutch and is battle-tested
-Qrich vs. jamal.......Q worked very hard last summer and emerged as one of the leagues brightest stars, jamal can do the same if he works as hard
-miles vs. chandler....... push
-odom didnt play much so he dosent count
-mcinnis vs. jay....since jay is a rookie, its a push for now
-erob vs. magette.....push
-curry vs. kandi....curry is a better scorer but kandi is the better defender
-hassel vs. dooling....hassel is better
-fizer is the difference here, he is the x factor and can easily drop 15ppg this year

for the record, i predict 39 games

Johnny, not to burst your bubble... but Chicago doesn't really compare well with Houston. Francis is a better player than Rose (sorry to say this) and Mobley is a very good and consistent scorer. Add to that the defensive presence of Cato and Kenny Thomas (who had a good season at PF), and they made some noise out West. Hakeem was on Toronto dude...

I agree that Rose and Williams are clutch. But Williams is still a rookie (albeit a good one) and usually rookies, especially point guards, don't make a huge splash enough to change the win column much.

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i was comparing the bulls to the rockets team or 2 years ago when they won 45 games, and jalen is better then both francis and mobley were at the time, heck, he's still better then mobely
 
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