I'm the new moderator of the Kings board, and i understand that alot of Bulls fans are also Kings fans on the side (out of mutual dislike for the Lakers), and i just wanted to try and encourage some of you to post over there. We don't get quite the movement that the Bulls board gets (nowhere near it actually). So help us out. Thanks.
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I believe some columnist on ESPNs site (from Boston?) presented his conspiracy theory on the NBA and the big games Bavetta ref'd. Seems he's always been there to make sure the big market team advances.
Lakers over the Kings was a joke, but I'm sure some folks thought Bulls over the Jazz was too.
When the NBA moves away from their WWF tendencies, things could get real interesting.
Until then, the Lakers will just have to cling to those tainted things in your avatar Ron!
Lakers over the Kings was a joke, but I'm sure some folks thought Bulls over the Jazz was too.
When the NBA moves away from their WWF tendencies, things could get real interesting.
Until then, the Lakers will just have to cling to those tainted things in your avatar Ron!
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Did everyone forget about game 2? I hate the Lakers as much as the next guy, but both teams got d*cked around throughout the series. The fact still remains, however, that game 7 was in Sac, was called pretty evenly (IMHO), and they just blew it. The Kings might want to borrow a coined phrase from Cub fans, "Wait Till Next Year", because it just might happen...
Game 7 shouldn't have happen at all when Kings could won in game six but of course in the NBA league they love to play "favortism" hopefully the instant replay system will help a bit or a lot.
But anyways in game seven that game was call it right down in the middle and the Kings blew it not the ref its the Kings that lost the game on game seven.
But anyways in game seven that game was call it right down in the middle and the Kings blew it not the ref its the Kings that lost the game on game seven.
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But my original point was, if the officials don't jack the Lakers in game 2, could the Kings make it a series? I tend to think not, but it's just speculation (Which gets us nowhere).
I've heard a conspiracy theory that the NBA is as fixed as the WWF.
By whom? Organized crime (bookies, vegas).
How? Bribe or threat. There's anecdotal evidence regarding Jordan along these lines: Jordan makes freethrows at the end of games with his eyes closed, yet misses two in a big game (big money wagered) so the Bulls don't cover the spread; Jordan owes gamblers money from golf debts; the death of Jordan's father, etc.
More "How"... A game can be thrown by a player or a referee or a coach. The conspiracy theory goes that it varies from game to game, they're all in on it, and when someone does try to "rat" on it, they're taken as lunatics or disgruntled...
Why? The theory goes like this. There's a heierarchy of bookies. People bet with the local bookies. If there's too much money on one side of the bet, the bookie is at huge risk, so he bets the other side with a bigger bookie, so he breaks even. This works its way back to Vegas, where the biggest bookies of all are (casinos). The casinos get a bird's eye view of all the wagering and they set the lines; often they'll set the lines to strongly encourage the bettors to bet on only one side. Fix the game so the other side wins, and Vegas cashes in. A few $million on every game. We're talking about winning bets, not games - if the Bulls, say, are favored by 15 and they win by 14, betting on the opponent wins.
The theory goes: NFL, NBA, MLB are all fixed.
Do I believe it? Not really, and you won't either.
However, it does make you wonder when you see a guy dribble the ball off his foot at half court, pass up an open shot, or miss critical free throws. In the NFL, it would be easy to cheat (throw a game) - the QB doesn't pass, gets sacked; receiver steps on the sideline with an open field in front of him; the refs either call things close or allow one team to hold at the line of scrimmage - think of how many replays you've seen of a receiver running around in the end zone waving "throw it!" and the QB somehow doesn't see it
In baseball it's the easy grounder that goes through the fielder's legs, bobbled balls, not hustling on the bases, etc.
I have a friend who lives in vegas and bets sports. He's used this theory to win a LOT of the time. One thing to consider is that to bet according to the theory, you have to deduce which side of the bet the money is on and bet the other side - this is rarely an easy thing to do. I'll also point out that the effect of using this strategy is really to be a contrary bettor - most people lose betting, so if you're contrary to "most people" you're going to win.
There's another angle to all of this. If the league is aware of any fixing, they can get involved in the fix, too. There's lots of TV revenue for each game beyond 4 that a 7 game series goes.
Probably just B.S., but fun to think about.
By whom? Organized crime (bookies, vegas).
How? Bribe or threat. There's anecdotal evidence regarding Jordan along these lines: Jordan makes freethrows at the end of games with his eyes closed, yet misses two in a big game (big money wagered) so the Bulls don't cover the spread; Jordan owes gamblers money from golf debts; the death of Jordan's father, etc.
More "How"... A game can be thrown by a player or a referee or a coach. The conspiracy theory goes that it varies from game to game, they're all in on it, and when someone does try to "rat" on it, they're taken as lunatics or disgruntled...
Why? The theory goes like this. There's a heierarchy of bookies. People bet with the local bookies. If there's too much money on one side of the bet, the bookie is at huge risk, so he bets the other side with a bigger bookie, so he breaks even. This works its way back to Vegas, where the biggest bookies of all are (casinos). The casinos get a bird's eye view of all the wagering and they set the lines; often they'll set the lines to strongly encourage the bettors to bet on only one side. Fix the game so the other side wins, and Vegas cashes in. A few $million on every game. We're talking about winning bets, not games - if the Bulls, say, are favored by 15 and they win by 14, betting on the opponent wins.
The theory goes: NFL, NBA, MLB are all fixed.
Do I believe it? Not really, and you won't either.
However, it does make you wonder when you see a guy dribble the ball off his foot at half court, pass up an open shot, or miss critical free throws. In the NFL, it would be easy to cheat (throw a game) - the QB doesn't pass, gets sacked; receiver steps on the sideline with an open field in front of him; the refs either call things close or allow one team to hold at the line of scrimmage - think of how many replays you've seen of a receiver running around in the end zone waving "throw it!" and the QB somehow doesn't see it
In baseball it's the easy grounder that goes through the fielder's legs, bobbled balls, not hustling on the bases, etc.I have a friend who lives in vegas and bets sports. He's used this theory to win a LOT of the time. One thing to consider is that to bet according to the theory, you have to deduce which side of the bet the money is on and bet the other side - this is rarely an easy thing to do. I'll also point out that the effect of using this strategy is really to be a contrary bettor - most people lose betting, so if you're contrary to "most people" you're going to win.
There's another angle to all of this. If the league is aware of any fixing, they can get involved in the fix, too. There's lots of TV revenue for each game beyond 4 that a 7 game series goes.
Probably just B.S., but fun to think about.
DaBulls its WWE don't forget to take the "F" out. Unless you want to get sued but some stupid company :laugh:
Anyways I wouldn't call WWE a fix I call it script but for the NBA I would like to call it fix or rigged.
And I tell you why.......WWE is entertainment is part of storylines to entertain the fans that why I say its part of the script.....
For NBA its basketball which is real......Its not suppose to call teams favortism it suppose to be call right down the middle who is the true winner but the past few years and this year that NBA love to put their ratings up and make money so they are possible or maybe "fixing games." Which I think right now that NBA is rigged the way the refs and leagues handle the games and with other BS.
Anyways I wouldn't call WWE a fix I call it script but for the NBA I would like to call it fix or rigged.
And I tell you why.......WWE is entertainment is part of storylines to entertain the fans that why I say its part of the script.....
For NBA its basketball which is real......Its not suppose to call teams favortism it suppose to be call right down the middle who is the true winner but the past few years and this year that NBA love to put their ratings up and make money so they are possible or maybe "fixing games." Which I think right now that NBA is rigged the way the refs and leagues handle the games and with other BS.
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Yes, bigtime! I listen to them as much as possible.Originally posted by Ceochase
SS...your an O+A fan too??
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