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THE MAN OF THE HOUSE

June 23, 2002

STORY BY ROMAN MODROWSKI * STAFF REPORTER


Tyson Chandler's brand new Mercedes rolls up his driveway in a cloud of dust while construction workers sweat out the final phase of the new subdivision.

Chandler has lived in the house less than a month and doesn't know any of his neighbors, which is similar to the way he felt last year at about this time, when he wasn't sure what part of the country he would call home.

The NBA draft is Wednesday, and one year ago Chandler was an 18-year-old prospect from Dominguez High School in California who decided to jump to the NBA straight out of Compton.

''I worked out in Washington two days before the draft, so I wasn't really sure where I would be at,'' Chandler said. ''The Clippers had told me, basically, they would take me at No. 2, so I didn't know if I would go 1 or 2.''

The Clippers selected Chandler with the second pick and promptly traded him and Brian Skinner to the Bulls for Elton Brand. Chandler considers the Wizards' choice of Kwame Brown as the No. 1 pick a personal snub and uses it as motivation.

Chandler's two-floor house doesn't feature many mementoes of his rookie year, except for a couple of game-night programs on a coffee table. There weren't a lot of keepsakes from the 21-61 season, considering potential and optimism aren't suitable for framing.

Chandler has to wait before he can hang his hat on any type of success, but he doesn't plan to wait long.

''I can't go through that again,'' he said.

So he's trying to ensure things will change as quickly as next season.

After cutting his summer vacation short, Chandler has been working out six days a week, sometimes twice a day, at the Berto Center. He works out in the morning with teammates Eddy Curry, Trenton Hassell, Jamal Crawford, Marcus Fizer and Dalibor Bagaric. And Chandler heads back at night with a couple of friends who are helping to break in the new house.

''Every day I come in [the Berto], there's something new drawn on the board,'' assistant athletic trainer Eric Waters said. ''There's some artwork on the greaseboard because Tyson has been here working out, and his friends have been waiting on him to finish and draw on the board. So I know he's been here the previous night.''

Jerry Krause snuck into the Berto on a recent holiday to try to walk off some calories, and Chandler was in there by himself working on his game.

''I see great similarities between Tyson and Scottie [Pippen] and Horace [Grant],'' Krause said. ''I probably never had two players work harder between their first and second seasons than Scottie and Horace.

''Eddy, Trenton and Dalibor are doing the same thing. They were coming all on their own, all voluntary.''

Chandler stands 7-1, although he feels he still may be growing, but his height already presents a mismatch at power forward. He weighs about 240 pounds and plans to add some muscle.

''I want to be able to finish stronger in games,'' he said. ''I want to be the guy my teammates look for late in games.''

The workouts include pickup games when the weightlifting is over. A recent game featured Chandler and former teammate Charles Oakley, who is a free agent but still works out at the Berto at Chandler's request, against Curry and Hassell. The talk is loud, and Oakley continues to teach the youngsters the physical nature of the game, leading to battle stories among the three later once Oakley has left for the showers.

Chandler blocks a couple of shots with explosive force, but his most emotional outburst is kicking a rack full of balls after he and Oakley lose. It's the middle of June, but the sting of defeat has Chandler lying alone on the Berto Center court for 15 minutes.

He needs help. And that's what Chandler has been searching for on the second floor of the Berto Center, where the management offices are located.

''If I'm going to be here, I want people around here who are going to win,'' Chandler said. ''[Management is] going to talk to me, but I don't wait for them to approach me. I go up there and give my input.

''I tell [Krause] I think certain players fit in and others don't really want to win. But it will be his decision.''

To his credit, Krause appreciates input from players because it reflects how serious they are about winning.

''Tyson and I have a very good relationship,'' Krause said. ''He's a bright young man, and he can be talked to. He makes good common sense.''

The night before Duke point guard Jay Williams worked out for the Bulls, Chandler made an unannounced visit to his hotel room. Chandler knows what it's like to work out for a team that already has someone playing your position. Fizer was the incumbent power forward when Chandler was acquired, and Jamal Crawford is the current starting point guard.

''I understand what he's going through and how tough and lonely that can be,'' Chandler said. ''It's like you're on an island and everybody's against you, as far as some players who might not want you to be here.

''So I kind of just wanted to go over there and tell him we do want him here, so just go and worry about the workout and not the other stuff.''

Williams appreciated the gesture, and his eagerness to join the Bulls convinced Chandler.

''I would love [Williams] to be here,'' Chandler said. ''I think he has that spunk, that fire in him, and he looks like he would be a great professional.

''He'll be the type of teammate who will come in and work hard with me. I could see it in his eyes when I was talking to him.''

Chandler's also excited about trade possibilities that include the Hornets' Baron Davis and the Cavaliers' Andre Miller, although with Williams on board, it's unlikely the Bulls would grab another point guard. Williams' presence, however, could result in Crawford being dealt for help at one of the frontcourt positions.

Chandler also has been studying the prospective free agents.

''I go in B.J. [Armstrong's] office every day and look at the board [of free agents] and tell him my ideas,'' Chandler said. ''And we'll battle back and forth.

''I really feel like this is my team. I want to know everything, like who we're going to draft and who we're going to take through free agency. That comment is not meant to be selfish because without guys like Eddy and Trent, we can't do anything.''

Chandler wasn't sure where he would go at this time last year, but he knows how far he wants to go next season.

''Sophomore season definitely gives you a different confidence,'' Chandler said. ''You know what's out there, and you come in with the mentality that I'm going to do well because I've seen it and wasn't far from it.

''I plan on being an All-Star. I just want to go as far as I can take myself. No limit.''

Chandler reached a limit last season. The year began with him chafing on the bench while Tim Floyd brought him along gradually, and it ended with Chandler and Curry experiencing the mental and physical fatigue most rookies face.

So after the season, Chandler retreated to his grandparents' farm in Hanford, Calif.

''We had a family reunion and stuff like that,'' he said. ''It was relaxing; nobody knew I was there.''

The reunion, however, didn't include Chandler's biological father. The only picture hanging in Chandler's house is that of his brother, Ryan, and his sister, Erika, on a wall in his bedroom. Those are his siblings from his father, who is not a part of Chandler's life.

''I respect him because he's an adult and he is my father, but I'm just trying to get to my little brother and sister when I call,'' Chandler said. ''Our time has passed. I'm a man now.

''It's difficult. It's a hard situation to be in.''

But Chandler saw how difficult it was for his mother, Vernie Threadgill, to raise three children, including Terrell and Tervon. Threadgill's parents also raised the children on their farm, and that's why Chandler's big offseason purchase was a house in Riverside, Calif., for his family.

It was the farm, though, that provided the serenity Chandler needed after the season.

''I was fishing for about a week and a half, relaxing with family,'' he said. ''I helped with the farm. My mom still makes me do my bed before leaving the house. It's the same thing. That's what I like, still having the chores.

''But I got bored. I started watching the playoffs and was ready to start playing. During one game, Jalen [Rose] called me and said, 'You've got to get me to there [to the playoffs] next season.' I called [Bulls management], and they arranged for me to come back to start working out.''

Chandler returned and began to put his new life in order. He no longer lives with 33-year-old Tom Lewis, who was an adviser from California because now Chandler feels like the man of the house.

Chandler's eager for next season, and he's dying to leave the rebuilding to the construction workers outside of his home. Chandler's ready for the NBA's high-rent district.
 

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Eddy Curry, Trenton Hassell, Jamal Crawford, Marcus Fizer, Dalibor Bagaric and Tyson Chandler are all working out voluntarily. None of them were satisfied with last season's performance.

I've got to give credit where credit's due. Krause has done a superb job of building a team with players who all seem highly self motivated...and at such a young age. Will all this extra work translate into victories? There's no guarrantees. In fact, there are no guarrantees that this core group of players will remain intact beyond next Wednesday when the Bulls will endeavor to add another missing piece to the puzzle.

But obviously word's gotten out that players like Chandler mean business. And that has to appeal to other players who are just as committed to winning championships. This most definitely is not the same old Bulls anymore. Michael Jordan and company had better take notice.
 

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Oh they will HJ, I think you started to see some of that just last season when teams would play the Bulls expecting to win simply by showing up in the building and when they looked up in the 4th and the Bulls had not gone anywhere alarm started to set in for some of these teams(just look at the Bucks :laugh: ). Great article, the Bulls return to respectability is very very near.
 

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Originally posted by HJHJR
THE MAN OF THE HOUSE

''I tell [Krause] I think certain players fit in and others don't really want to win. But it will be his decision.''
So fitting in means wanting to win...

Who is on the team that doesn't want to win? Any guesses?
 

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Re: Re: Chandler Demonstrates Why Everyone Wants to be a Bull

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So fitting in means wanting to win...

Who is on the team that doesn't want to win? Any guesses?
I don't think there's anybody on the team that isn't interested in winning. I do think, however, that there is a player or two who place personal achievement ahead of team goals.
 

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I just read "Playing for Keeps: Michael Jordan and the World That He Made"
by David Halberstam.

It's an outstanding read. Something that really stood out was how much Jordan improved from his senior year of HS over his 3 three college carrer. Of course, his will for greatness was already well documented.

I see great similarites between Chandler and Jordan and look for the same type of growth in Chandler's game. The Bulls are in very, very good shape for the future.
 

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Overall a good read

But lil Masser better be careful and know his place less he wants to pi$$ people off with his well meaning precociousness which starts bushfires.

Will his necessity for "input" and sitting at the table cracking the whip translate into MJ and Management part deux?

Just be careful what we wish for - I sense the force in this one and he could easily turn to the darkside ;)
 

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Originally posted by FJ_of _Rockaway
Overall a good read

But lil Masser better be careful and know his place less he wants to pi$$ people off with his well meaning precociousness which starts bushfires.

Will his necessity for "input" and sitting at the table cracking the whip translate into MJ and Management part deux?

Just be careful what we wish for - I sense the force in this one and he could easily turn to the darkside ;)
FJ,
From very personal experience, let me allay your fears about Tyson Chandler ever acquiring the persona of one MJeff (Darth Vader in sneakers). This kid was raised right. For one so young, he's a very thoughtful gentleman through and through. Let me put it this way. I have a very dear friend who was recently hospitalized. He's a member of the Bulls family. The first player he received a call from while recovering in the hospital was none other than Tyson Chandler. Now believe me, it wasn't necessary for him to do that. But he did, and it shows me that this young man has it all over MJeff when it comes to giving of himself to others when it really counts.

As for his "well meaning precociousness" as you call it, you must first put everything into a proper context before passing judgement. One of the goals of management over the years has been to improve its relationships with players. They've made great strides in that area and a considerable amount of credit has to go to BJ Armstrong who has developed a very close bond with the Bulls young players including Tyson. Tyson, and some of the others feel quite comfortable tossing ideas back and forth with BJ. The wall of separation between management and the players that was so prominent in the '90s has all but disolved today.

I hope that puts to rest any concerns you may have about Tyson Chandler presuming too much too soon. Take it from me, he's a genuinely good guy, and a player we can all be proud of.
 

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HJ

The style of my reply and its content was based around johnston 797's reply about Halberstam's read and his contention that there are a lot of similarities ( stylistically ) between Tyson and a young Michael Jordan.

MJ , as I always remembered him , was a very respectful young man early on who could really charm . He came from a very solid family with very solid values that has emphasised the necessity for hardwork to achieve anything that you are setting your goals toward.

Tyson , like a young MJ , is charismatic , opinionated ( not necessarily a bad thing ) fiercely competitive and definately knows what he wants as I suspect he always has

Somewhere along the way , the pressure of the spotlight in the media crush that was the eighties , combined , perhaps with the non consultative "us and them" style of management sent things awry .. and negativity and distrust built up on itself - both sides being equally responsible and as they say in the classics... the rest is history .

I trust your opinion as you well know and in support of my belief in you , it is just common sense for management to learn from their mistakes and make the necessary adjustments (structurally - not neccessarily in personality however in that we cannot change who we are and how we respond under pressure when the raw elements of who we are come out)

Tyson is precocious and his confidence may mask a certain naivety to some extent - at least that is the way it gets perceived by me in studying the Bulls from distance . His comments with regard to the playoffs this season were encouraging on one hand and slightly embarrassing in their naivety on the other. His comments now asking for leadership , which surely one day must come , perhaps before he is truly ready and has his game up to speed , is publicly putting pressure on himself that he does not need to just yet. Let his game develop and then talk it up and stake his claim . I can understand the psyche though and I respect the compulsion in needing to say it as it rings true to me on a personal level.

Also as they say in the classics .. sometimes discretion is the better part of valour.

The final point I make may not be his fault but he has to develop his relationships with the beat writers better such that they inadvertantly do not paint a picture the wrong way . Upon reading that I saw how inflammatory it may be too team chemistry and growth if one of the kids had a preferenced "ear" to jaw off some things he is only just starting to understand and in this position of preference , being seen to have undue influence could do one of two things :

1. Pi$$ his teammates off and potentially make them distrustful of him if he tries to assume leadership before he has legitimately earned it

2. Have Mgt humour him and his "inputs" if they get too frequent, forceful and clumsy in their delivery , which , if picked up on by Tyson could get him pi$$ed and frustrated - the build up of such negativity could detract from the development of his game

In all of this , because he is still so young at 19 and needs to be guided much further still , the real challenge is for Mgt to manage Tyson carefully and encourage his input but deftly managing the lines of demarcation such that Tyson accepts off his own accord what he is there for and that is to be an absolute ball tearing stud, who together with this brilliant and exciting nucleus Jerry has put together will deliver several years of entertaining high quality ball we can all be proud of.

To finish off with another line from the classics and in keeping with the theme of maturity and personal growth :

Mark Twain once said :

"When I was 18 I thought my father was a fool . By the time I was 25 I was surprised at how much he had learned"

Good luck on draft day ( y'know what I mean :) )
 

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FJ,

Valid points, one and all. BTW, as a new daddy you will soon learn first hand about the exuberance of youth, and that in most cases it's a blessing and a quality that should be encouraged and nurtured. My advice is to jump on it when you see it and develop it before things like PS2 and pizza turn them into chubby couch potato's! Oh, and thanks for the good wishes

Maestro, you're very welcome and thanks for the acknowledgement.
 

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Why everyone wants to be a Bull

It's pretty obvious that the Bulls are going to be the team to beat in a few years.

JWill knows the advantage of talent like Curry, Chandler and Rose.

So does Baron Davis.

That's why they've voiced their approval, recently, of joining the Bulls.

What the Bulls do in the next week can very well be the difference between a playoff team and eventual champion.
 

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Originally posted by FJ_of _Rockaway
HJ

The style of my reply and its content was based around johnston 797's reply about Halberstam's read and his contention that there are a lot of similarities ( stylistically ) between Tyson and a young Michael Jordan.

MJ , as I always remembered him , was a very respectful young man early on who could really charm . He came from a very solid family with very solid values that has emphasised the necessity for hardwork to achieve anything that you are setting your goals toward.

Tyson , like a young MJ , is charismatic , opinionated ( not necessarily a bad thing ) fiercely competitive and definately knows what he wants as I suspect he always has

Somewhere along the way , the pressure of the spotlight in the media crush that was the eighties , combined , perhaps with the non consultative "us and them" style of management sent things awry .. and negativity and distrust built up on itself - both sides being equally responsible and as they say in the classics... the rest is history .

I trust your opinion as you well know and in support of my belief in you , it is just common sense for management to learn from their mistakes and make the necessary adjustments (structurally - not neccessarily in personality however in that we cannot change who we are and how we respond under pressure when the raw elements of who we are come out)

Tyson is precocious and his confidence may mask a certain naivety to some extent - at least that is the way it gets perceived by me in studying the Bulls from distance . His comments with regard to the playoffs this season were encouraging on one hand and slightly embarrassing in their naivety on the other. His comments now asking for leadership , which surely one day must come , perhaps before he is truly ready and has his game up to speed , is publicly putting pressure on himself that he does not need to just yet. Let his game develop and then talk it up and stake his claim . I can understand the psyche though and I respect the compulsion in needing to say it as it rings true to me on a personal level.

Also as they say in the classics .. sometimes discretion is the better part of valour.

The final point I make may not be his fault but he has to develop his relationships with the beat writers better such that they inadvertantly do not paint a picture the wrong way . Upon reading that I saw how inflammatory it may be too team chemistry and growth if one of the kids had a preferenced "ear" to jaw off some things he is only just starting to understand and in this position of preference , being seen to have undue influence could do one of two things :

1. Pi$$ his teammates off and potentially make them distrustful of him if he tries to assume leadership before he has legitimately earned it

2. Have Mgt humour him and his "inputs" if they get too frequent, forceful and clumsy in their delivery , which , if picked up on by Tyson could get him pi$$ed and frustrated - the build up of such negativity could detract from the development of his game

In all of this , because he is still so young at 19 and needs to be guided much further still , the real challenge is for Mgt to manage Tyson carefully and encourage his input but deftly managing the lines of demarcation such that Tyson accepts off his own accord what he is there for and that is to be an absolute ball tearing stud, who together with this brilliant and exciting nucleus Jerry has put together will deliver several years of entertaining high quality ball we can all be proud of.

To finish off with another line from the classics and in keeping with the theme of maturity and personal growth :

Mark Twain once said :

"When I was 18 I thought my father was a fool . By the time I was 25 I was surprised at how much he had learned"

Good luck on draft day ( y'know what I mean :) )
very nice post. (And i could understand this one!!! LOL)
 
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