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There has been plenty of rumor and articles during the past couple of weeks that suggest possible expansion of various BCS leagues......and now comes this from the Big East:

http://espn.go.com/blog/bigeast/post/_/id/9266/marinatto-time-to-think-outside-the-box

Their commish talks about possible expansion to 20 teams!!! It has also been suggested that the Big Ten may go to 16 teams and the Pac-10 is on the verge of adding Colorado and Utah. Looks like it will be an all out war between the BCS leagues......and then the fallout hits the rest of us. I think that we are going to see some BIG changes!
 

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We basically have three "sports" competing here - FBS (I-A), FCS (I-AA) in football and I-A hoops.

If the Big East, Big Ten, ACC, and SEC start shuffling around the smaller conferences like the A-10 are going to add members or disappear.

So what happens to the Colonial? The Sun Belt (a true mid-major conference with FBS football)?

It could get ugly quickly for some conferences.
 

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It could get ugly quickly for some conferences.
Darn right! This could be one time that America East actually benefits from being tucked away in the Northeast corner with a relatively small footprint.

I think that the Big Ten and Big East are about to go to war against each other. It's obvious that the Big East is now in survival mode, and that it is looking like they have ditched any thoughts of splitting.

Here are my scenarios for the Big Ten and Big East:

Scenario A: Big Ten goes to 16 schools

Syracuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana

Notre Dame
Northwestern
Purdue
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri

Then:

ACC Expands to 16 schools:

BC
UConn
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech
ODU
Louisville
NC State

North Carolina
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
Georgia Tech
Florida State
South Florida
Miami

Then the SEC expands to 16 schools:

West Virginia
Cincinnati
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Memphis
South Carolina
Georgia

Florida
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
LSU
Arkansas
Houston

The Big East regroups as a 12 team basketball conference:

Boston U.
Providence
St. John's
Seton Hall
Villanova
St. Joe's

Georgetown
George Washington
Dayton
Xavier
DePaul
Marquette

Meanwhile........

The PAC-10 goes to 12 schools:

Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford

UCLA
USC
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
Utah

Then the Big 12 takes in 2 to replace Missouri and Colorado:

Nebraska
Kansas State
Kansas
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State

Rice
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU

So.......Mountain West and WAC survivors (plus Long Beach State) form:

Boise State
Idaho
Wyoming
Colorado State
Air Force
Utah State
New Mexico
New Mexico State

BYU
San Jose State
Fresno State
Nevada
UNLV
Long Beach State
San Diego State
Hawaii



Phew!......to be continued. ;)
 

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I don't know if you are being facetious or what but I'm waiting for the rest of it. What happens to the AE?
Not being facetious at all, this is a board tradition going back as long as I've been reading (2003 at least)

Although I do think BU getting a Big East call over the likes of Siena or George Mason is highly unlikely
 

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Scenario A: Big Ten goes to 16 schools

Syracuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana

Notre Dame
Northwestern
Purdue
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri
That is actually a nice set up and and somewhat realistic possiblity (although I doubt ND takes the plunge).

As for the rest of your changes ... Cincy in the SEC - are you on 'shrooms?
 

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That is actually a nice set up and and somewhat realistic possiblity (although I doubt ND takes the plunge).

As for the rest of your changes ... Cincy in the SEC - are you on 'shrooms?
I know......they are an odd duck because of their football program. I don't see any other possibility under my scenarios......they get left out of all major conference expansions. They are somewhat close to Kentucky, and add a major new market so.........:whoknows:
 

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One issue with the ACC scenario. Gene DeFillipo of BC is still furious with UConn for the law suit after BC left Big East and will do anything he can to stop this, although he may change his mind if the payoff is big enough. After all, BC stands for Bring Cash.
Darn right! This could be one time that America East actually benefits from being tucked away in the Northeast corner with a relatively small footprint.

I think that the Big Ten and Big East are about to go to war against each other. It's obvious that the Big East is now in survival mode, and that it is looking like they have ditched any thoughts of splitting.

Here are my scenarios for the Big Ten and Big East:

Scenario A: Big Ten goes to 16 schools

Syracuse
Rutgers
Penn State
Pitt
Ohio State
Michigan
Michigan State
Indiana

Notre Dame
Northwestern
Purdue
Illinois
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Missouri

Then:

ACC Expands to 16 schools:

BC
UConn
Maryland
Virginia
Virginia Tech
ODU
Louisville
NC State

North Carolina
Duke
Wake Forest
Clemson
Georgia State
Florida State
South Florida
Miami

Then the SEC expands to 16 schools:

West Virginia
Cincinnati
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Memphis
South Carolina
Georgia

Florida
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
LSU
Arkansas
Houston

The Big East regroups as a 12 team basketball conference:

Boston U.
Providence
St. John's
Seton Hall
Villanova
St. Joe's

Georgetown
George Washington
Dayton
Xavier
DePaul
Marquette

Meanwhile........

The PAC-10 goes to 12 schools:

Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Cal
Stanford

UCLA
USC
Arizona
Arizona State
Colorado
Utah

Then the Big 12 takes in 2 to replace Missouri and Colorado:

Nebraska
Kansas State
Kansas
Iowa State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State

Rice
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Baylor
TCU

So.......Mountain West and WAC survivors (plus Long Beach State) form:

Boise State
Idaho
Wyoming
Colorado State
Air Force
Utah State
New Mexico
New Mexico State

BYU
San Jose State
Fresno State
Nevada
UNLV
Long Beach State
San Diego State
Hawaii



Phew!......to be continued. ;)
 

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Although I do think BU getting a Big East call over the likes of Siena or George Mason is highly unlikely
BU is very well positioned for the scenario that I presented (an all private school hoops league). What would the league rather have......a world renown university with a solid athletic program in the Boston market......or a small Catholic school with a very weak athletic program in Albany??? Siena......you're outta here!

George Mason?......nope. GW will be chosen over them as Georgetown's "travel partner". Travel budgets will be a very big consideration for this relatively widespread league which is why I have 6 pairs of travel partners.
 

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Well, you're leaving out a few pretty decent named schools here

So let me propose what might happen to the rest

Hybrid Mid-Major conference w/Football (15 members + 1 affiliate)
North
Stony Brook
Fordham
Albany
Maine
U Mass
UNH
Rhode Island
Delaware
Villanova (football only)

South
Richmond
James Madison
Towson
William & Mary
Charlotte
Georgia State
Liberty
South Carolina State

Basketball Only Mid-Major Conference: (14 members)

Vermont
UMBC
Hartford
Temple/Boston Univ (I think Temple goes, not BU, since Temple has football)
Saint Louis
Duquesne
St. Bonaventure
Northeastern
George Mason
VCU
Drexel
Hofstra
UNC Wilmington
Binghamton
 

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As you read this - I'd like to point out that many of the FCS football forums already project that this is what the football re-alignment will look like.

Frankly, I kinda like the way these divisions look. Infinitely more competitive on both ends. Nearly certain that the auto-bid of these conferences (both football and non-football) would avoid the "dreaded" play-in game, regardless of how many of them there are. I'd even make a case that they'd be more competitive in basketball than the WAC, Mountain West, and the basketball-only Big East.
 
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