Do you remember...

kinda throws me off because i don't remember anyone wanting to build around villanueva. when was that? that opinion certainly wasn't widespread across these boards.

trading bosh? maybe. some considered it... but i just don't know how seriously. brought it up to talk about it, maybe, but i don't think there were many who ever felt that strongly on the subject. i remember most rumours started to circulate when fans got insecure about chris' will to re-sign in toronto and all that junk. you'd get the "ok, let's get something for him!" ideas.

whatever, i don't know if there's a single player in the nba for whom i'd trade bosh. i've felt that way for a while, personally- i think kobe might've been the only exception. or dwyane. and even then... can't remember that well.

but in terms of attributing the current losing streak solely to bosh's injury, let's be serious. in fact, i don't think we've played much worse without him. i think we are beginning to play progressively worse as the season draws to a close, yeah, but i suspect that would've happened anyway. he's important but i don't think we need to make things up as we go along here. yeah, we're on a streak, yeah, he's injured, but i see that more as a coincidence than i do a cause-and-effect. i'm sure you do too.

peace

First of all, ballocks, I think you are right, no one was really serious about trading Bosh only throwing ideas out there while they were sick of talking about not winning games.

no_free_baskets said:

strictly on a talent for talent basis, yes, i would trade lebron or wade for bosh...however, from a practical pt. of view, i would absolutely not trade bosh for lebron or wade since theres no way we would be able to resign them...say what you will, but you can make far much more money from a marketing pt. of view playing in the states...i mean look vc in his heyday...he was the biggest star in the league yet he hardly had any major endorsements and nothing close to rivaling what lebron has nowadays...

in retrospect, you can argue that we "lucked out" in the 2004 draft by not getting a "high-maintenance" superstar like lebron and ending up with the optimal "low-maintenance" star like bosh given their re-signability...

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I'd have to disagree on the marketability thing. I think it is easier to argue that Lebron is pretty much the biggest star the NBA has seen. I forget whos signature it is --edit: Gilgamesh-- ... but it has the production of different legendary players at the age of 20. Well... I think MJ was averaging something like 20ppg, and Lebron is averaging 30-6-6 or something like that. On top of that, he is about at marketable as it gets. Young guy, ripped, 6'8", not cocky, always prooves the doubters wrong. I mean, Wince in his priime doesn't even compare in my opinion.

Dee-Zy said:

I would of said yes only in terms of getting something in the lines of LJ or DW or Stat if he is healthy, but I don't see them moving for Bosh so no. I'd rather work with Bosh and his upside than getting a proven superstar because it will prolly cost us too much and Bosh has will be that superstar anyways. Honestly though, even for LJ I wouldn't do a Bosh trade, Even though James is crazy, I'd rather work around a big man. Aslo I don't see any other Big man with upside besides Amare that would be worth trading Bosh. I'd rather have Bosh than Howard or Okafor.

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I'm tempted to agree with everything you said here... Obviously everyone knows that LBJ is sick. But Bosh will be big enough time to easily build a team around and compete for championships in my opinion. I wouldn't be at all pissed if there was a Bosh for Lebron swap, but obviously that unlikely, and in my opinion unneccessary. Let's just see who's the better GM at bringing in supporting casts, Colangelo or Ferry? ??

-lata