Brian Hill is a damn idiot. If I'm the owner and he's alienating Howard he gets the boot immediately.
Why the hell was his re-tread *** brought back?
Why the hell was his re-tread *** brought back?
Dwight wants more offensive freedom; 'only' 6'10
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/magic/2006-04-04-howard_x.htm
Also, news has come out that he's really only 6'10... godamn fake listed heights :biggrin:
Also, news has come out that he's really only 6'10... godamn fake listed heights :biggrin:
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How is Hill alienating Howard?HKF said:Brian Hill is a damn idiot. If I'm the owner and he's alienating Howard he gets the boot immediately.
Why the hell was his re-tread *** brought back?
Well, you can certainly make an argument that Hill is holding Dwight back from what he could become. Right now, any time he touches the ball in the post, he's double teamed immediately. Adding a consistent jump shot would draw defenders away and free him up more in the post. Dwight is right; he isn't Shaq. He can't just back players down and dunk over them... he wants to add finesse to his game, and who can blame him? Tim Duncan isn't strictly a low post player either, he takes several jump shots a game.
The fact that he is only getting 10.6 shots a game is the real alarming number. Dwight is the franchise now, this team and coaching staff needs to realize that and make a stronger effort to get him involved in the offense. When you are only getting one more shot attempt per game than Deshawn Stevenson, something is wrong. Howard's point high this season is a highly disappointing 24, but that is hardly any fault of Dwight's... he doesn't get the ball enough.
If Dwight isn't getting at least 15 shots a game next season, Hill needs to be canned... simple as that.
The fact that he is only getting 10.6 shots a game is the real alarming number. Dwight is the franchise now, this team and coaching staff needs to realize that and make a stronger effort to get him involved in the offense. When you are only getting one more shot attempt per game than Deshawn Stevenson, something is wrong. Howard's point high this season is a highly disappointing 24, but that is hardly any fault of Dwight's... he doesn't get the ball enough.
If Dwight isn't getting at least 15 shots a game next season, Hill needs to be canned... simple as that.
Hill is right; Howard is wrong. Howard doesn't want to bang all game? Too bad. That's what chiseled 7-footers do. And if they don't, they are doing the opposition a favor. You can always add a jump shot later, but not too many guys start shooting the J and then decide they want to bang in the low post. You start in the post and you build your game outwards. Nets did it w/ Krstic last year (and he already had a jumper). They used him primarily in the post, grew that part of his game, and now they are getting the best of both worlds out of him. Howard's body is made to dominate the paint. Going away from that at a young age would be a huge mistake.
On the strict # of shots issue, Howard definately should be getting more. The guards have to learn how to get him the ball, and he's got to learn how to get open around the basket.
On the strict # of shots issue, Howard definately should be getting more. The guards have to learn how to get him the ball, and he's got to learn how to get open around the basket.
i dont know if anyone is right or wrong there they are just trying to expand the kids game so he can adjust to the double teams and coordinate his game with darko. i dont think he's a 7fter in any shape or form. he should try to model his game after a chris webber or a karl malone and leave the heavy lifting down low to the 7ft darko.SeaNet said:Hill is right; Howard is wrong. Howard doesn't want to bang all game? Too bad. That's what chiseled 7-footers do. And if they don't, they are doing the opposition a favor. You can always add a jump shot later, but not too many guys start shooting the J and then decide they want to bang in the low post. You start in the post and you build your game outwards. Nets did it w/ Krstic last year (and he already had a jumper). They used him primarily in the post, grew that part of his game, and now they are getting the best of both worlds out of him. Howard's body is made to dominate the paint. Going away from that at a young age would be a huge mistake.
On the strict # of shots issue, Howard definately should be getting more. The guards have to learn how to get him the ball, and he's got to learn how to get open around the basket.
Howard needs to learn he isn't KG. Especially now that we have that kind of player on the team in Darko. Sure, he could definitely use a reliable jumpshot. Every basketball player should be able to shoot the ball. But I don't want him ANYWHERE near what's generally considered the perimeter. Darko will take care of that. Lord knows he can't rebound. In fact, if Dwight is completely against the idea of playing the role of center, and he apparently is, it would probably be best to develop Darko as a tall 3 and just hope we find a starting C.
Extremely well said, SeaNet's 100% correct.SeaNet said:Hill is right; Howard is wrong. Howard doesn't want to bang all game? Too bad. That's what chiseled 7-footers do. And if they don't, they are doing the opposition a favor. You can always add a jump shot later, but not too many guys start shooting the J and then decide they want to bang in the low post. You start in the post and you build your game outwards. Nets did it w/ Krstic last year (and he already had a jumper). They used him primarily in the post, grew that part of his game, and now they are getting the best of both worlds out of him. Howard's body is made to dominate the paint. Going away from that at a young age would be a huge mistake.
On the strict # of shots issue, Howard definately should be getting more. The guards have to learn how to get him the ball, and he's got to learn how to get open around the basket.
Howard is our banger, Darko is our shooting big man that expands the defense. Darko might be taller, but he's not as athletic and physically gifted as Howard. Howard's also got a lot more weight on his body. It would be a real waste of Howard's talent to not force him to work on his low post game. He can add a jumper once he starts to lose some of his physical and athletic gift. But seeing as he's 20 and huge, that's a ways off. As long as he can overpower the opposition I see no reason to waste time developing a 18 foot jumper when we have Darko.
I agree with Seanet and Lachlanwood32; however, what scares me is Howard believes he can have a game similar to Garnett (who's game I dispise). Being a dominant lowpost player is a mentality and isn't something that can be taught in my opinion. I think the greater issue is Howard isn't getting the touches he should be and if he was getting those touches he may be more comfortable playing on the low block. I have no problem with Howard developing a jumpshot as long as he understands his place is on the low block first. He needs to stop watching tape of KG and start watching Duncan who can dominate on the low block and can shoot the mid range jumper.
If Howard is only 6'10", how tall is Tony Battie?
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It is a tough situation because I think both Hill and Howard are correct.
For one, Dwight getting a shooting coach is a great idea regardless just in terms of hopefully bettering his foul shooting. His stroke looks pretty good to me, he just needs some refinement. He'll be that much more dangerous shooting 70+ from the foul line.
If Dwight wants to be like KG then that would be a mistake. And I don't necessarily think he does. I think he more likely goes the way of Duncan. Duncan does most of his damage on the post but avoids a lot of bump and grind down low by being able to step out maybe 3-4 times a game and drop a jumper. I say if Dwight can get his free throw shooting up I have no problem with him getting and taking maybe 3 jumpers a game. If he can start to hit them and people actually have to start guarding it, it will increase his speed/quickness advantage against other bigs even more.
And I do think Hill is correct in that he still wants Howard to focus on dominating down low. But Hill also needs to realize that Howard is not Shaq and hopefully also realizes he needs to handle the situation with care because this franchise cannot lose Howard. While he is a pretty imposing big man he is not the incredible physical force that Shaq was and there is nothing Hill or Dwight can do about that. As big and strong as Howard is right now there are still guys who can push him around.
All in all I see no problem with Dwight expanding his game and trying to improve his jumper and free throw shooting. I don't think it means Dwight is going to start jacking up 10 jumpers a game next year.
Orlando really needs to get a SG who can feed Dwight the ball down low. When guys like Stevenson and Dooling are feeding Dwight the ball defenders have no problem in coming down and doubling Dwight.
Also, it seems like the plays Hill runs have Dwight way outside around the 3 pt line always setting screens and dropping off passes. It seems like he spends a lot of time running around out there. Hill needs to keep Dwight moving around closer to the basket.
Also2, while Dwight still isn't getting the FGAs he should be things are still progressing well. His PPG are up 5 pts and he is currently the leading scorer on the team. If the same increase happens next year, and I expect it will, Dwight should be right around 20 ppg which would be fine by me.
It is a tough situation because I think both Hill and Howard are correct.
For one, Dwight getting a shooting coach is a great idea regardless just in terms of hopefully bettering his foul shooting. His stroke looks pretty good to me, he just needs some refinement. He'll be that much more dangerous shooting 70+ from the foul line.
If Dwight wants to be like KG then that would be a mistake. And I don't necessarily think he does. I think he more likely goes the way of Duncan. Duncan does most of his damage on the post but avoids a lot of bump and grind down low by being able to step out maybe 3-4 times a game and drop a jumper. I say if Dwight can get his free throw shooting up I have no problem with him getting and taking maybe 3 jumpers a game. If he can start to hit them and people actually have to start guarding it, it will increase his speed/quickness advantage against other bigs even more.
And I do think Hill is correct in that he still wants Howard to focus on dominating down low. But Hill also needs to realize that Howard is not Shaq and hopefully also realizes he needs to handle the situation with care because this franchise cannot lose Howard. While he is a pretty imposing big man he is not the incredible physical force that Shaq was and there is nothing Hill or Dwight can do about that. As big and strong as Howard is right now there are still guys who can push him around.
All in all I see no problem with Dwight expanding his game and trying to improve his jumper and free throw shooting. I don't think it means Dwight is going to start jacking up 10 jumpers a game next year.
Orlando really needs to get a SG who can feed Dwight the ball down low. When guys like Stevenson and Dooling are feeding Dwight the ball defenders have no problem in coming down and doubling Dwight.
Also, it seems like the plays Hill runs have Dwight way outside around the 3 pt line always setting screens and dropping off passes. It seems like he spends a lot of time running around out there. Hill needs to keep Dwight moving around closer to the basket.
Also2, while Dwight still isn't getting the FGAs he should be things are still progressing well. His PPG are up 5 pts and he is currently the leading scorer on the team. If the same increase happens next year, and I expect it will, Dwight should be right around 20 ppg which would be fine by me.
i would bet howard is a legit 6'11 or better in shoes.
the magic should take a page out of teams playbooks
run both darko and howard (rotating) in the high and low post. get them touches in both places. make them the vocal point of the offense, and let everyone else feed of that
the magic should take a page out of teams playbooks
run both darko and howard (rotating) in the high and low post. get them touches in both places. make them the vocal point of the offense, and let everyone else feed of that
We have a big man that can step behind the freethrow line and knock down the jumper. That isn't what we need Dwight for. Howard's main role on this team should be rebounding, althought he should be touching the ball almost every possesion. The offense needs to be run through him. He will get the amount of touches he needs, and he will get plenty of points, when he can post up one-on-one on a defender. You know what they say-- if someone is double teamed, someone else on the floor has to be open.
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