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especially in the west where he doesn't play well against the best PF. He is a #'s no win type guy. His Crunch time buckets must be really low...he always dissapears.
 

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Brand overated - NO WAY!!!!!!

Brand put's up 20-10 a night, and he's overated??
He helped the Clipps improve and will continue to do so...
he probably never hit a game winner before, but his work throughout the game more than enough.

Wanna here overated - what about CWEBB???
Where is he when it counts???
where is he for the game winner???
where is he when Tyra Banks wants a little something-something??? Know what I mean?

Brand is the corner stone of the Clipp joint....
and the only player to get the max out of the Clipps.
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Brand is overrated... yeah, and pigs fly with golden wings over the moonlight:rolleyes:
 

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He is a solid player with a great work ethic that sees him grab at least 18-9. I rate him highly and he is thoroughly deserving of that... as if he cares how I rate him. Hehehe
 

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Reason it seems like Brand fades out during stretches of the game, is because he's not fed the ball. And the reason for that, is because with a young team with capable scorers, other guys will be able to score. But if they just sat back and kept feeding the ball to Elton Brand, they could get as many points as they would like.

People counted him out, as if he was only getting 20-10, because he was on the Bulls. Said he couldn't get it done in the West, and now he's doing it..

And also, you have to account to the fact that he's a big reason why Michael Olowankandi improved his game play last season, because all the defensive attention in the post wasn't thrown his way.

Brand is a guy who might not be the funnest guy to watch play, hell some people might even say he's boring. But he is one of the most fundamentally sound big men in the league, and you know when he's out on the court, he's giving it his all. You can't say that about many players in the league.

So in my opinion he's definatley not overrated.

-Tim
 

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On my list Brand is the 5th best PF in the league!

1. Duncan
2. K.G.
3. C-Webb
4. Sheed
5. Brand
6. Dice
7. Walker
8. Reef
9. K-Mart
10. J-O'Neal


The man is 6'8,in other words hes UNDERSIZED,yet he STILL puts up 20pts 10reb 2blk in the West!
 

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Re: Brand overated - NO WAY!!!!!!

Originally posted by LA-Drew
Brand put's up 20-10 a night, and he's overated??
He helped the Clipps improve and will continue to do so...
he probably never hit a game winner before, but his work throughout the game more than enough.

Wanna here overated - what about CWEBB???
Where is he when it counts???
where is he for the game winner???
where is he when Tyra Banks wants a little something-something??? Know what I mean?

Brand is the corner stone of the Clipp joint....
and the only player to get the max out of the Clipps.
:D
At least Webber gets the Kings to where it counts. When he arrived in Washington they made the playoffs. When he arrived in Sacremento they made the playoffs. I don't know why everyone says he's overrated. He's better then Brand. He hasn't even been in a game where it matters. Wow Brand is the cornerstone of the Clippers, thats something to brag about. Say what you will about Webber but KG and Duncan don't step up in the end of a game. Most, if not all clutch players in the league are guards. They have the ball in their hands at the end of a game.
 

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webber got more help on his team then duncan, kg and brand. webber could disappear in the 4th, like he always do & bibby or peja is there to step up.
 

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Yeah I know he does. I'm just saying that he does just as much at the end of the game as they do. At the end of the game It's all about the gaurds.
 

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no way is brand overrated, i still say he was my choice for guy who shouldnt be in the mvp hunt but is up until about half way through last season, he was puttin up a double double every night and was carryin the clipps. hes probably the third best post up player in the game right now behind shaq and duncan, sheed plays outside alot so does kg and cwebb.

5th in the league in rebounds at 6'8 is pretty good and wasnt he first in offensive rebounds?
 

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Originally posted by PhillyPhanatic
Reason it seems like Brand fades out during stretches of the game, is because he's not fed the ball. And the reason for that, is because with a young team with capable scorers, other guys will be able to score. But if they just sat back and kept feeding the ball to Elton Brand, they could get as many points as they would like.

People counted him out, as if he was only getting 20-10, because he was on the Bulls. Said he couldn't get it done in the West, and now he's doing it..

And also, you have to account to the fact that he's a big reason why Michael Olowankandi improved his game play last season, because all the defensive attention in the post wasn't thrown his way.

Brand is a guy who might not be the funnest guy to watch play, hell some people might even say he's boring. But he is one of the most fundamentally sound big men in the league, and you know when he's out on the court, he's giving it his all. You can't say that about many players in the league.

So in my opinion he's definatley not overrated.

-Tim
YOU took the words right out of my mouth!

Brand was definitely the reason Kandi improved last year from the games I saw. Brand has such a great work ethic and is so dependable & fundamentally sound. I also rate him high just for those reasons alone.
 

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LMAO @ Having Kenyon Martin, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Antoine Walker, Antonio McDyess, Elton Brand, and rasheed Wallace all ahead of the youngest player in NBA history Jermaine O'Neal.

HEATLUNATIC, just admit, you're jealous of the Pacers.
You're jelaous that the Pacers are the youngest team in the NBA, you're jelaous that the Pacers are the favorites to win the East next season, you're jealous that the Pacers have more potential than any other team in the NBA, and you're jelaous that the majority of the NBA experts agree that the Pacers are the dynasty in the NBA.
Hey, I can't help it that Pat Riley can't run a basketball team worth a damn, putting together a team filled with over-the-hill hasbeens (Zo, Grant, Strickland, Gill, etc.) and somewhat young players with absolutely NO TALENT (Anthony Carter and whoever else play on the Heat) . The one decent player the Heat have is Eddie Jones and he isn't anything that special. Well, have fun watching the Heat win 15 games next season HEATLUNATIC.
 

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and you're jelaous that the majority of the NBA experts agree that the Pacers are the dynasty in the NBA.

Should have said; "You're jealous that the majority of NBA experts agree that the Pacers are the next dynasty in the NBA."
 

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The reason the CLippers only improved by 8 games last season, was because their most talented player was either being suspended for smoking weed(a dumbass decision for himself) or out with an injury. If Odom had played the whole season, I believe the Clippers would have made the payoffs. I don't have much else to say because it looks like almost everyone agrees and has already explained that Elton Brand is not overrated. He may not be a guy that can single-handedly make your team a contender like Duncan or Shaq, but he is one of the best and hardest working PFs in the league.
 

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Originally posted by G.O.A.T
LMAO @ Having Kenyon Martin, Shareef Abdur-Rahim, Antoine Walker, Antonio McDyess, Elton Brand, and rasheed Wallace all ahead of the youngest player in NBA history Jermaine O'Neal.
G.O.A.T.

I don't know if you watch many Pacers games or not, but Jermaine O'Neal is nowhere near as consistent as the guys you laughed about who were placed ahead of them. Remember that it was Kenyon Martin that O'Neal was having problems with in the first round series. O'Neal had such a great first game, did nothing since..

The guy may have gotten the most improved award (should've went to Nash), but he still has a lot more growing to do, before he can even break the upper echelon of PFs in the league.

-Tim
 

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J.Oneal was shut down by K-MART in the playoffs and I know everyone remembers that, Looks like Jermaine doesn't like to bang with the big boys, he's overrated & inconsistent. His spot in the PF poll is ranked precisely. Brand is better than K-Mart and way above J.Oneal
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Elton led the league in offensive rebounds

If you don't like a guy, just say it. Don't make up stuff and say I think &%^$^&%^. He has been put on teams that the year before were nowhere close to playoff contenders. He has put up quality numbers and been a leader. Since the Wizards tanked when Webber was there does that mean he is overrated ?

Offensive rebounds is one of the most underrated stats in the NBA. Brand simply led the league in offensive rebounds - nuff said.

Bully
 
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