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Well, it's pretty obvious besides Charles Oakley and re-signing a few of our players Gabe will still be keen on staying put for 2003 when we can have a "chance" to get Tim Duncan. It's a shame and we're all getting sick of it but oh well what can you do. I've heard a few Keon Clark signing rumours because he says he wants to go to Florida but I don't buy it since his money demands are high and offcourse Gabe has a lover he'll be waiting for in a year that we probably won't even get. :rolleyes:

Charles Oakley will bring leadership and a helper & motivator for McGrady just like he did for Vince Carter. Hell, they know each other very well because Tracy was a Raptor for the first 2 years of his career and Oak was there right? He's gonna be back up and won't let anyone pick on T-Mac offcourse.

Another problem we can sign is a point guard who'll either serve as a potential backup plan if Grant Hill's ankle faulters once again. He should retire if that happens offcourse but since Hill's set to play point guard and DA will have a backup role we should get someone like Jacque Vaughn. Sure Travis Best has been mentioned but I doubt he'd fancy a move to be our 3rd string PG either.


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Travis Best would be better than Jacque Vaughn. Lemme say this: Vaughn is just horrible. He was more worried about fighting with a ball boy last year than playing the game. Oakley will definitely go to Orlando. I just don't see him being here for more than one year, and then he outta damn retire.:laugh:

Mike Miller and Grant Hill need to be pakcaged for a starting center and a viable backup PG. Don't ask me where they'd find one, just do something other than drafting big men and trading them away... Tim Duncan in Orlando shoulda happened a few years back. David Robinson even told him to go sign with them, he stayed in San Antonio.

We will see what Orlando does....
 

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I think Oakley will be good for T-Mac. He was good for VC and hopefully he can stop McGrady's head from exploding. If Hill is healthy this team is automatically shot up into contending for the Eastern Conference Championship. Of course, there's no way they can stop Shaq :no: I liked the pick of Borchardt, I thought they had a steal, I didn't like the move of him for Humphrey. If the Magic can get Duncan then they may just be unstoppable. They wouldn't have a dominant center but they'd have 3 players capable of scoring 25+ ppg. Do you have 3 players who can match up and contain McGrady, Hill, and Duncan all at the same time?
 

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It's a scary though to imagine if both Grant Hill and Tracy McGrady were both healthy all along and we'd have a chance at getting Tim Duncan, holy cow! :p
 

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I DONT know where its gonna happen,but I think where ever Duncan goes or stays,Kidd will follow!

I think Riles is gonna make a HUGE push for Best this summer,and I think Best is gonna except.Best wants to start,but that wont happen in L.A. or O-Town cuz of Fisher/Armstrong and Hill.

Yes Oak will help on the boards,but do u realize the Magic would have the OLDEST frontcourt in the league with Ewing/Oak/Grant?

For the Magics sake,I hope Hill comes back full throttle this season!:yes:
 

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I really dunno if Grant can play as full time point guard. As good as Hill is, I still think he shouldnt be a starting pg for the team but maybe as a point foward instead.
 

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That's my main target aswell, if he can atleast play most games will be a huge boost and make us a Eastern conference threat and offcourse make our post-season much longer.

I'm pretty sure Doc Rivers will limit Hill's playing time numbers and make some type of rehab and slowly make him come back which is a magnificent idea IMO.
 

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I'm also worried if Grant Hill steps on someone's foot or twists his ankle, he could be out longer than the average player because of all the problems he has. Doc probably knows this and will give Hill less playing time to help prevent this from happening.
 

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I don't share the seam fear about him twisting his ankle because if you keep that in mind then you can forget about him ever being good again because basketball is a competitive sport, it ain't golf. :laugh:

Anyways, if we could sign any free agent this year who would you want it to be? Malik Rose is my pick. He's such a hard worker and he even rebounds like crazy! he's so good sometimes when Duncan wasn't there he was the main scorrer and actually gave Shaq some tough times on offensive and defense. Such a hard worker kind of like Bo Outlaw when we had him, very energetic and even more amazing he has a jump shot!
 

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Do you have the list of free-agents this year? I would love to have Rose in Orlando. He is just the kind of guy we need.
 

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Free Agents Orlando should look at getting.

These are the players I think Orlando should take a look at this off season. And I feel it is a must to keep Monty and Pat on the team, Hudson can go because there are a lot of free agent PG's

1)Chauncey Billups-Great offensive game and can really hit open 3 pointers, can penitrate and drive would be a great fit for Orlando.
2)Jacque Vaughn-Below Chauncey because he doesn't have as good of offensive game, but is a great defender at PG and could be a good backup, and might be pretty cheap to.
3)William Avery-Is a project but if Orlando wants a shooter pick Will, and I think he can make open shots if he gets them, but is not a good defender.
4)Travis Best-Would be a lot higher on the list if he was not so old, might be a last result pick.
5)Kevin Ollie-Finals experience and is a good defender.


The restricted guys Orlando should take a look at, yes they are all centers.
@Restricted: Michael Olowokandi-I don't think the Duncan deal will ever go through, so why not go with the next best thing, but who could Orlando give up to get him?
@Restricted: Mengke Bateer-Over Wang because he is a better defender, can really hit the open jump shot.
@Restricted: Wang Zhizhi-Would be a good pick just to cause matchup problems with his 3 point shot.

Others.

*Darvin Ham- Would be a great pick if Orlando didn't already have Humphery.
*Malik Rose-Another small tough PF, but lets be serious he is not Tim Duncan!!!
*Charles Oakley-Would be a great physical presence in the post, he would give a attitude to the team and I see that as a good thing.
*Rodney Rogers-Can his open jump shots, but might have to come at a big price.
*Mikki Moore-Would be another cheap pickup, but he is a athletic center that can run and block shots.
*Vladimir Stepania-Super shooter and is pretty athletic
*Corie Blount-A very good defensive PF that could be a good addition if we can't get Oakley.
 

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For your point guard list, I think you got it all wrong. Travis Best should be on top of your list! He's old? OK sure he is 30 but he has finals experience, he deffinately knows how to pass the ball to superstars and hit the jump shots. Jacque Vaughn would be my second option, though.

Charles Oakley and/or Malik Rose is who I want. Wang ZhiZhi isn't exactly what I call a big man who can help down low and motivate McGrady in his chinese speaking language like Oakley can do it. :laugh:
 

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Ok, You can say Best is a more economic pickup for Orlando than Billups fine!


But now way you think Best is better PG than Billups, Chauncey is a better 3 point shooter and is why stronger. Plus two words, Baron Davis if he is still on the Hornets. The Magic really got killed by big PG's and Billups would help stop that because of his size and strength.

I think it would be a great lineup to have
PG-Billups
SG-McGrady
SF-Hill
As the backcourt!:grinning:


Better than
PG-Best
SG-McGrady
SF-Hill:no:


Billups might need more $$$$$, but I say it is worth it.
 

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Oh lord, if you only knew how ridiculous your last post was. :no:

First of all, whatever point guard we get is going to be third string because Grant Hill is set to be a PG. We don't even need a third PG but we're taking gonna go for it because maybe Hill might get injured again. So do you understand what I mean? this is the starting linuep:

PG-Grant Hill
SG-Tracy McGrady
SF-Mike Miller


BTW, Chauncy Billups won't accept that role and I don't think the Best will accept it either so let's hope Vaughn will. Don't be fooled by Billups scoring either, I've never thought that he's a true PG really. Best would be the better of the two IMO.
 

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OK, that is all fine.

But you said it yourself that Hill will play the PG for the team and I hope he does, I hope he doesn't lose any of his game before the injury.

But if Hill will play PG that is even more reason to take Billups as the position PG. Because as you said again Billups doesn't have a great handle, but that would not matter if Hill does most of the handling dutes. So then Billups can just score off of open shots, and there will be plenty of those if Hill and Tracy play a full year together.

And Billups I think would be better for defense as well as offense than Best. Best is a lot slower and weaker than he once was, he is not the little pitbull he was before, he has lost a lot of his game. Why else would the Pacer start a rookie all year last year. Billups once again could guard the big PG's in the East, mainly Davis now answer me this. Who would you want guarding Davis in a playoff series, Best or Billups?????

Best is not even close to the baller he once was!
 

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I'm sorry but I fail to see what you're talking about. Or maybe you haven't heard of Darell Armstrong? He's going to be energized and coming off the bench at the point guard position. Billups won't accept the role and he'd never be playing at the same time as Hill because DA is the backup anyways, you know? Two players of the same position don't play at the same time, I thought you knew that! :no:

Listen bro, we don't need such a defensive stellar player. I've never thought highly of Billups defense so I've got no idea what you're talking about either, Best has NBA finals experience and he knows he isn't in his prime anymore so he'd be a perfect fit.

Billups is a scoring threat but with Tracy McGrady, Mike Miller and Grant Hill we are not in need for another threat. Hell, Pat Garrity will get alot of open shots when T-Mac and Hill will be double teamed and stuff.

Thank you and I hope you finally get my point. :rolleyes:
 
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