Yes this is exactly what's wrong with the NBA and the Trailblazers specificaly. Players like Morrison, Reddick and others that I saw crying after losses seem to really get it. These are the exact players a franchise would love to have on their team. Hopefully Portland will be able to draft a few of these players with (heart) and move on past the situation they are in. That being said I hope they don't panic and draft any of them too high for PR sake.
From Canzano's blog:
Reader Kim:
"Let's see. Adam Morrison, who plays college basketball, and makes (ostensibly) no money doing so, plays his heart out and gives everything he has, and when the game is over, cries unashamedly because they lost the game. On the other hand, Darius Miles, a professional basketball player who is paid millions to play the game, oversleeps and misses the morning shootaround, doesn't bother to call the coach, doesn't apologize, doesn't see anything wrong with what he did..."
True, so true...
"Let's see. Adam Morrison, who plays college basketball, and makes (ostensibly) no money doing so, plays his heart out and gives everything he has, and when the game is over, cries unashamedly because they lost the game. On the other hand, Darius Miles, a professional basketball player who is paid millions to play the game, oversleeps and misses the morning shootaround, doesn't bother to call the coach, doesn't apologize, doesn't see anything wrong with what he did..."
True, so true...
1 - 20 of 26 Posts
Look, I also get fed up with pro players who don't seem to give a damn. But it is still apples and oranges. I would expect a difference between the reaction of an NBA player to a loss in one game out of 82 and of a college player to a loss in his (or her) final game.
For Morrison, a big part of his life is now over, assuming he does turn pro. Yes, he will go on, he will have other successes, but his college career, his time at Gonzaga is done. And done in a brutally disappointing fashion. For Miles, he has a lot more pro career. If a pro player dissolved into tears at every loss he/she would not be able to function. They have to be able to take it in stride. Not laugh and play, but not come apart.
Hell, if a pro player did cry after every loss we'd hear he/she was not tough enough. Remember how Duckworth used to suffer, and the grief he took for it?
I do know there were some tears and a lot of very upset pro players on the Blazers on June 14, 2000.
For Morrison, a big part of his life is now over, assuming he does turn pro. Yes, he will go on, he will have other successes, but his college career, his time at Gonzaga is done. And done in a brutally disappointing fashion. For Miles, he has a lot more pro career. If a pro player dissolved into tears at every loss he/she would not be able to function. They have to be able to take it in stride. Not laugh and play, but not come apart.
Hell, if a pro player did cry after every loss we'd hear he/she was not tough enough. Remember how Duckworth used to suffer, and the grief he took for it?
I do know there were some tears and a lot of very upset pro players on the Blazers on June 14, 2000.
Canzano is the same guy who said we should draft Sean May after the NCAA Tournament last year.
I'm still not sold that Morrison is strong enough or quick enough to get his shot in the NBA. Not to mention his defensive liabilities. I can't see any reason to believe he's a better player than Luke Jackson was in his last year at Oregon.
-Pop
I'm still not sold that Morrison is strong enough or quick enough to get his shot in the NBA. Not to mention his defensive liabilities. I can't see any reason to believe he's a better player than Luke Jackson was in his last year at Oregon.
-Pop
A Canzano article that is anti-Darius? Imagine that.
You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone who's pro-Darius at this point.Foulzilla said:A Canzano article that is anti-Darius? Imagine that.
-Pop
:biggrin:Foulzilla said:A Canzano article that is anti-Darius? Imagine that.
In retrospect though, he was right all along wasn't he. Everybody's dishing the hate on Darious now (myself included) and I haven't seen many defend him lately. I mean really, how could anyone defend that knucklehead's antics.
Peace
Very good post, C.crandc said:Look, I also get fed up with pro players who don't seem to give a damn. But it is still apples and oranges. I would expect a difference between the reaction of an NBA player to a loss in one game out of 82 and of a college player to a loss in his (or her) final game.
For Morrison, a big part of his life is now over, assuming he does turn pro. Yes, he will go on, he will have other successes, but his college career, his time at Gonzaga is done. And done in a brutally disappointing fashion. For Miles, he has a lot more pro career. If a pro player dissolved into tears at every loss he/she would not be able to function. They have to be able to take it in stride. Not laugh and play, but not come apart.
Hell, if a pro player did cry after every loss we'd hear he/she was not tough enough. Remember how Duckworth used to suffer, and the grief he took for it?
I do know there were some tears and a lot of very upset pro players on the Blazers on June 14, 2000.
Ed O.
:biggrin: Wow some people still read Canzano? :clown:
:banana:
:banana:
me too, but I'd also expect them to show some kind of emotion during the games, instead of the pink panther (cartoon) sorta strutt off the court that that Darius does after every game, win or loss.crandc said:Look, I also get fed up with pro players who don't seem to give a damn. But it is still apples and oranges. I would expect a difference between the reaction of an NBA player to a loss in one game out of 82 and of a college player to a loss in his (or her) final game.
I'm not sure if anyone saying (at least, I'm not. I can't and won't speak for crapzano) that he needs to do so after every game. But showing some kind of fire period would be nice.For Morrison, a big part of his life is now over, assuming he does turn pro. Yes, he will go on, he will have other successes, but his college career, his time at Gonzaga is done. And done in a brutally disappointing fashion. For Miles, he has a lot more pro career. If a pro player dissolved into tears at every loss he/she would not be able to function. They have to be able to take it in stride. Not laugh and play, but not come apart.
only from evil fans. I loved and still love Duck. I just wish Duckworth had a little more mental toughness.Hell, if a pro player did cry after every loss we'd hear he/she was not tough enough. Remember how Duckworth used to suffer, and the grief he took for it?
Do Duck! Quack Quack!
that was the upper cut to the team and the fanbase...we've stumbled since then.I do know there were some tears and a lot of very upset pro players on the Blazers on June 14, 2000.
Is this the first time ever that Ed O agreed with me?
There is a difference between managing ones emotions appropriately and according to the situation and being downright apathetic. IMO Miles appears to be closer to the later which is cause for concern.crandc said:Look, I also get fed up with pro players who don't seem to give a damn. But it is still apples and oranges. I would expect a difference between the reaction of an NBA player to a loss in one game out of 82 and of a college player to a loss in his (or her) final game.
For Morrison, a big part of his life is now over, assuming he does turn pro. Yes, he will go on, he will have other successes, but his college career, his time at Gonzaga is done. And done in a brutally disappointing fashion. For Miles, he has a lot more pro career. If a pro player dissolved into tears at every loss he/she would not be able to function. They have to be able to take it in stride. Not laugh and play, but not come apart.
Hell, if a pro player did cry after every loss we'd hear he/she was not tough enough. Remember how Duckworth used to suffer, and the grief he took for it?
I do know there were some tears and a lot of very upset pro players on the Blazers on June 14, 2000.
If we draft JJ or Morrison they should get ready for a LOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTTT of crying.mediocre man said:Yes this is exactly what's wrong with the NBA and the Trailblazers specificaly. Players like Morrison, Reddick and others that I saw crying after losses seem to really get it. These are the exact players a franchise would love to have on their team.
A trip to Costco to stock up on the 24 box pallet pak of tissue would be in order.
It's because you took a stance, then stepped backward and examined the stance you took.crandc said:Is this the first time ever that Ed O agreed with me?
Then you considered another possibility, finally concluding that there's no way you could possibly make a comparison because everything situation, person, game is different, and not knowing all the facts, you can't make any accurate conclusion or argument, etc. etc.
You scored bonus points for referring to an old game too. 4 points, I'd say.
It's definitely one way to go as a poster.
Does Darius Miles get emotional about basketball? Of course he does. He just takes it out by screaming at his coach, calling him racial epithets, and chasing him down the hall to the GM's office.
Adam Morrison, on the other hand, gets upset about losing games.
No difference, really.
Adam Morrison, on the other hand, gets upset about losing games.
No difference, really.
except one is a positive thing...and one is a negative.Talkhard said:Does Darius Miles get emotional about basketball? Of course he does. He just takes it out by screaming at his coach, calling him racial epithets, and chasing him down the hall to the GM's office.
Adam Morrison, on the other hand, gets upset about losing games.
No difference, really.
Yes, thought and reflection are good things to put into a post while leaving out too much emotion and dogma.Samuel said:It's definitely one way to go as a poster.
And, crandc: I've definitely agreed with you before. I think it was in 1999 on BLT.
Ed O.
I remember that, but wasn't it 98? and you both agree'd I needed to "shut the hell up"?Ed O said:Yes, thought and reflection are good things to put into a post while leaving out too much emotion and dogma.
And, crandc: I've definitely agreed with you before. I think it was in 1999 on BLT.
Ed O.
I'm not sure if thats really too impressive. The whole list agree'd with that thought.
I agree with SA that there is a difference between managing emotions and apathy. And like I said I don't like pros who don't seem to give a damn either. But I am saying that (surprise!) Canzano has the wrong end of the stick. It's like Morrison cried, so he's good person who cares, but those who don't aren't. I am saying that the circumstances are different.
But I sure agreed with Pip when he snapped off the TV when Wallace and others were laughing after a tough loss.
But I sure agreed with Pip when he snapped off the TV when Wallace and others were laughing after a tough loss.
I was being ironic. Sorry if that didn't come through.except one is a positive thing...and one is a negative.
YES, YES, YES! There is a world of difference between crying after a loss and yelling at your coach. Adam Morrison cares about winning and losing, and Darius Miles couldn't give a flip about it.
1 - 20 of 26 Posts
- This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Professional and College Basketball Forums
A forum community dedicated to Competitive Basketball players and enthusiasts. Talk about everything from the NBA to college basketball to even everything but basketball. It's all here!
Full Forum Listing
Explore Our Forums
Recommended Communities
