BigMac said:playing tought D doesn't hurt Artest or AK47.
Pan Mengtu said:He's still good. He's one of those guys who's either really good or really average, and he's really average right now. Back when he was playing really good in the middle of the season is when people were saying that Stockton trash. Stockton shot over 50% for his career, I believe. Hinrich might not crack 40% for his career if he keeps up this pace. He'll get hot sometimes, but other times he has these 4/19 nights.
Gary Payton. Especially relative to the shooting of the era. I consider Hinrich to be very similiar to Payton, though he's also clearly been given Mark Price/Steve Nash tapes to watch since coming into the league. But I think Gary Payton is a good comparison for what Kirk brings to the table.SPMJ said:I've never seen a "good" player consistently shoot as poorly as he does. To me, that says he's not a "good" player. Above average is what I would call him. He's still way too inconsistent on one side of the court to be called "good".
When you play defense out of your position, then it matters.SPMJ said:I've never seen a "good" player consistently shoot as poorly as he does. And don't give me that crap about how he plays defense. TONS of players in this league play good defense, none shoot as poorly as Kirk. Just because u play good D, it doesn't excuse u from stinking on the other end(unless u're a big man who can really change the game defensively). Shooting below 40% is acceptable ONLY if u're a really great rebounder, passer, or a center who can impact the game on D like guards CANNOT. Hinrich's none of those things. Thus, above average is what I would call him. He's still way too inconsistent on one side of the court to be called "good". I highly doubt if he has had two straight games this season where he has shot up 50%.
Hinrich has no postgame and can't guard guys well that post up on him. However it's not his fault he oscillates between positions (PG and SG) every posession.Pan Mengtu said:.... Gary Payton is a career 46% shooter with several seasons about 50%. He wasn't a bad shooter by any means. And he had the killer post game that Hinrich doesn't have (not that I've seen, at least).