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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/15/AR2010051501524.html

STOCKHOLM -- The home of a Swedish artist who once drew a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad as a dog has been hit by a suspected arson attack, police said Saturday.

Lars Vilks, who lives in Nyhamnslage in southern Sweden, was not at home during the attack late Friday night and no one was reported injured.

It was the latest in a week of attacks on the 53-year-old cartoonist, who was assaulted Tuesday by a man while he lectured at a university and saw his Web site apparently attacked by hacker on Wednesday.
Seriously, some of his stuff is offensive but so are a lot of things in this life. Don't make things worse.
 

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^You're talking to the cartoonist or the terrorist?

There are some things that just cause more trouble than it's worth, and pissing off Muslims is just that. If the downside of pushing the envelope on Mohammed is dealing with angry, blood-lusting fanatics, you're better off doing something else.
 

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Dealing with people saying things you don't agree with. Christians, Jews and others are dealing with it more constructively as a whole and there is no doubt. I bet most people watching that are more scared of muslims than they are that idiot.
 

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Not really--the guy draws it and gets a hit put on him. He doesn't draw and and there's no hit. With the internet age people now know what lines can be crossed safely and what lines can't. It's not like the west fears Muslims because we don't know what they're thinking. The fear comes from having different and polarizing values that they'll kill you over. IE, free speech is valued here but practically condemned in Islam.
 

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Not really--the guy draws it and gets a hit put on him. He doesn't draw and and there's no hit. With the internet age people now know what lines can be crossed safely and what lines can't. It's not like the west fears Muslims because we don't know what they're thinking. The fear comes from having different and polarizing values that they'll kill you over. IE, free speech is valued here but practically condemned in Islam.
Ahh I get it... So just allow this bull**** to continue because they threaten people with death for drawing their prophet? Yeah that makes a lot of sense. How about standing up to them (ala with Draw Muhammad Day on May 20th) and not allowing them to dictate right and wrong?
 

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Because the ideas of right and wrong is subjective to culture, but the finality of life and death is universal.

Religious fanaticism isn't bull****, it's how people live. You can debate about free speech vs. piousness with a terrorist, but one of you is going to snap first and machete the other while screaming Allah Akbar. Nothing good comes out of dealing with the irrationally violent, so why would you insist.
 

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Because to allow it to dictate your lives gives validity to their idea that they can threaten anyone with death and people will just back down. If we gave into every terrorist demand because we were dealing with irrational people and we'd prefer not to die, well then this world would be a lot different of a place now wouldn't it?
 

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Because to allow it to dictate your lives gives validity to their idea that they can threaten anyone with death and people will just back down. If we gave into every terrorist demand because we were dealing with irrational people and we'd prefer not to die, well then this world would be a lot different of a place now wouldn't it?
You allow the law to dictate your life. Here they threaten you with fines instead of death to make you back down. Even when some laws are irrational we reluctantly follow, because we don't want to suffer the consequences. What you just described was crime and punishment.

To answer your question, we give in to demands when we follow laws. It's how people regulate other people. It's how governments get you to comply.
 

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We follow laws we find to be rational. Those we don't find to be rational we fight against (usually). What you're saying is irrelevant, as it would only be a cogent argument if people refused to stand up and fight unfair laws, and that it would be better to do so.
 

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We follow laws we find to be rational. Those we don't find to be rational we fight against (usually). What you're saying is irrelevant, as it would only be a cogent argument if people refused to stand up and fight unfair laws, and that it would be better to do so.
"We follow laws we find to be rational" is a personal take on crime and punishment that does not comply with reality. If you find a law irrational and you don't follow it, punishment occurs when you're caught. It's not about what you think, it's about what the decision-makers of crime and punishment think. The idea that the people decide the laws is an American value that doesn't apply in most places of the world.

How would you fight the rule that you're not supposed to depict Mohammed? Re-write the Quran? Or you could draw it anyway and feel good until the fanatics start coming--then you're not fighting the rule but simply breaking it. Religious fanaticism cannot be 'fought' because it's an element of Islam that will always remain.

Tom that was a fantastic post.
 

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This is one of those issues that Great Britain created by breaking its word to the Hashemites (in short, the British promised to support the Hashemites call for an Arab state from Damascus to Mecca in exchange for their aid against the Ottoman Empire). In order to exploit the oil resources of the region they divided up the Arab region into smaller states, including the the region controlled by the Hashemites (The Kingdom of Mecca & Medina). The result was that the House of Saud and the insane Wahhabis were able to conquer the holiest sites of Islam, and the relatively enlightened & progressive Hashemites were replaced by Islam's Moral Majority as the center of the faith (sort of akin to Pat Robertson getting hold of the Holy See). The reality is that there is a long and rich history of artwork depicting the prophet in Islam, the prohibition is a Wahhabist one dating to the 17th or 18th century.











 
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