depending on what players come out, there could be a large difference between the 12th pick and the 15th pick. it all depends on the talent available. and being in the lottery gives them a shot at getting a very high pick. they don't have very good chances, but they do have a chance to get a top pick. and is being a quick 1st round exit really that much better than missing the playoffs and getting to pick a few picks higher?RP McMurphy said:As for the Pacers being better off missing the playoffs, people say that sort of thing all the time and I always find it ridiculous. The difference between the 12th pick and the 15th pick isn't even close to enough to make it worthwhile to miss the playoffs. For some reason, there's a kind of mystique around the idea of a "lottery pick" that makes people think that if you get one, your team is going to be awesome next year. It doesn't work that way, or else we wouldn't see the same teams in the lottery year after year.
Looking at the players who have been drafted at 12th in recent years (thanks Sir Patchwork), I think your statement is quite a stretch. There's a good chance you won't even end up with an impact player. And if I found out that my team purposefully missed the playoffs because they were more interested in an 0.6 percent chance at the top pick, I think I'd stop being a fan.rocketeer said:depending on what players come out, there could be a large difference between the 12th pick and the 15th pick. it all depends on the talent available. and being in the lottery gives them a shot at getting a very high pick. they don't have very good chances, but they do have a chance to get a top pick.
Of course it is. Even if we're getting swept by the Heat, I wouldn't miss watching the Pacers in the playoffs for anything. I'd rather win 40 games than 20 games, I'd rather get swept in the first round than just miss the playoffs, I'd rather make the second round than the first round. I hate losing and I want to see my team do as well as possible. There are some fans who don't mind sucking because they tell themselves it's better "for the future," but that's the mentality of a losing franchise IMO.and is being a quick 1st round exit really that much better than missing the playoffs and getting to pick a few picks higher?
Don't hold your breath...In all seriousness, the Pacers could sneak into the playoffs but I have a feeling that it's not meant to be. If they can get into the playoffs then Coach Carlisle has to be considered for coach of the year for all they've been through this season.gian said:I hope they get in... I want Reggie to have a great exit, I respect him so much.
I get your point somewhat, but right before the "Basketbrawl", the Pacers were soundly beating the defending NBA champions in their house. The Pacers were as good as any team in the league, and they were building the continuity and familarity you talk about. They didn't just "stack talent" by signing Jackson. Reggie Miller was a year or two from retirement, and they needed a solid replacement for him. Jackson is what they need, not just another offensive player on a stacked team. I think they'd be either the 1st or 2nd seed right now if it weren't for the Artest incident. I expect the Pacers to pick up where they left off next year, as far as having the full deck of players and being an elite team.Pan Mengtu said:I don't know if their future is as bright as some think. Even when they had everyone (minus Artest) back they still were mediocre. Even though Artest is a big piece, I think they have to basically start from scratch as far as rebuilding chemistry goes. You don't just stack talent and you all of the sudden have a good team. Continuity and familiarity among players is important too. What was the difference between 03 Pacers and 04 Pacers?