why are the choices "yes", and "kobe"?
I have been thinking about the MVP debate alot lately and all the standard lines the media use to try and justify their vote.
"Does he make his teammates better?" - This is a heavily used criteria, but has no real definition or substance IMO. PG's look better if they have good shooters around them. The shooters hit there shots, the PG's assist numbers go up. Shooters can also look better if they have a good PG finding them for open looks. But, who is actually the one making the other better?
eg. Nash is a great PG. No one doubts that. But, why wasn't he ever an MVP candidate on the Mavs? Is it because he didn't have the quality shooters and finishers that he does on the Suns team? Or did he just all of a sudden start making his teammates better?
I think they should be asking "Who is making him better?" and trying to look at it from the other side... They should watch games with a different point of view when considering MVP votes and really think about this question.
eg. Who is making Kobe better? Is there anyone that makes him better? He was great when he played alongside Shaq and was winning championships. No one would give him the vote because "He had Shaq", now, he doesn't have Shaq, he doesn't even have another All-Star playing along side him. He is playing incredible basketball this season, better than any other season in his already great career, but, why doesn't he recieve the vote now?
In sumary, you can debate all you want about players making other player better, therefore making them more worthy of an MVP vote, but, think about who is making THAT player better.
Let me point out, too, that in an interview with Laron Profit, they asked him why Kwame now seems to finally be playing so well. His response: "That guy over there [indicating to Kobe]." In essence, he said Kobe's presence takes away all the pressure and eases the game for his teammates. Isn't that making your teammates better?
Besides, if Kobe doesn't make his teammates better, how is that almost all of them are having career years? How is it that Chucky Atkins had a career year here last year with Kobe, but is now back to his usual production? How is that guys who'd hadn't seen consistent floor minutes with other teams, come here and suddenly look like real NBA players? Isn't Smush better? Mihm, too? Kwame sure looks dam good.
It's pretty remarkabe that almost all of Kobe's teammates are having career years, including FG% and production, when he doesn't make them better. Gee, if they could play this well without his presence, why haven't they ever?
It just goes to show that many of these guys don't watch the games. If you watch the Lakers you will see how the attention that defenders pay to Kobe opens the floor for his teammates. Every guy getting minutes is having a career year. Kobe takes the opponent's #1 perimeter threat on defense. He has the ball in his hands down the stretch, and takes every big shot for the team. If this isn't enough to win the MVP, then play on the court is not the criteria that is being used.
MVP of the NBA!!!!
Most Valuable Player of the NBA!!!!
Who is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER of the NBA!!!?
It says it right there
I dont know when these morons decided to give an award that is suppose to go to the best BASKETBALL PLAYER in the League, to a guy who they feel is deserving because its convienant. Like I said before, Barkley and Malone got MVPs in MJ's prime. That goes to show you that the MVP is horsebleep. MVP belongs to the BEST BB player in the NBA. Who is a better basketball player in the league this year?
..I think that really does sum it up.
I mean, Steve Nash may well be "The Suns MVP" - but is he the "NBA's MVP"? - Same can be said of Kobe. But that is the question. It's not the most valuable player to a team, but to the League.
The best player in the League. it certainly needs to go back to player voting. The media is too biased and have changed the meaning of the award.
I hear what you're saying, and I'm a crazied Kobe advocate, but he will not win the league MVP. He wont win because the lakers haven't won enough games, and that is a half of what makes a player the league MVP. Team wins, and leading the team. Kobe has lead the team; they just don't have enough wins to match his individual MVP type production.clien said:of course he is. he is the best player in the league. He makes his teamate better(despite what the people who dont watch basketball say)--all his teamates are haveing career years for the most part...And more importantly so is Kobe__35-5-5,, sitting comfortably in the 7th seed in the western conference(w/ a less than stellar team)
--it used to be Kobe couldnt be the MVP of the league b/c he had shaq, now he is dominateing the entire league w/ out shaq--and the reason he cant win the mvp is because "he doesnt make his teamates better"??--paleeez...give me a break watch what kobe is to this team 1 time and tell me you disagree--im fed up w/ the anti-kobe **** in the media-what do they know about what the MVP is, let alone who deserves it,, put the voting in the players and coaches hands, then we'll see who the mvp is, cuz they know....(the mvp should b the best player in the nba--not the most valubale on a great team)
Does Pippen get a chance to vote?CubanLaker said:Scottie Pippin just said that in his opinion, Kobe's the MVP on ESPN :clap:
Tom Tolbert is just being an ***KOBEDUNKEDONSHAQ said:Does Pippen get a chance to vote?
Tom Tolbert also said that Kobe is his MVP, but he wont vote on a player who is not on the top 3 teams in wins in the league. :whoknows:
You may be right. And that is so stupid. There is no way that Billups is as valuable to the pistons as Kobe is to the Lakers. Pointe Finale.PauloCatarino said:2- Kobe won't win the MVP award due to team (lack of) success.
You're right. But the same can be said about steve nash and the suns. If you think about it, they're in about the same position. They only have one other player on their team that's all-star caliber, and they have a bunch of guys that would stuggle (or have struggled) to make an impact on any other team. Is Kobe the better of the two? By about 3X. But who's atop of the standings?madskillz1_99 said:You may be right. And that is so stupid. There is no way that Billups is as valuable to the pistons as Kobe is to the Lakers. Pointe Finale.