Ellison's talent wasn't squanderedAm I the only one who just wishes this guy would've gone to a franchise with a better history of developing young big men? I'm worried that the Knicks are going to squander a lot of talent with him the same way that the Pistons did with Darko, the Clippers did with Olowokandi, and the Bullets did with Pervis Ellison. I thought all of those guys would have been all-star level players with the right infrastructure.
I don't think that's true. Organizational weaknesses derailed each of those guys. Sure, they might not have ever been hall-of-famers, but I think they could all have been quite a bit better than they turned out to be.plus, Kandi was lazy, and Darko ended up as a kickboxer. these guys were never going to make it no matter where they went.
I remember Kandi from his T-Wolves days, not when he was drafted, so I read this: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/kareem-abdul-jabbar-is-still-angry-at-michael-olowokandi?urn=nba,wp6868. seems accurate from how I remember him.I don't think that's true. Organizational weaknesses derailed each of those guys. Sure, they might not have ever been hall-of-famers, but I think they could all have been quite a bit better than they turned out to be.
Also, the training staff is certainly a potential organizational weakness. Just ask the Suns.
The Pistons did nothing of note to put Darko in a position to succeed.I don't understand with Darko though...There was almost no immediate expectation put on him and he was allowed to develop slowly. Larry Brown is not the best coach to develop young talent but it was a winning culture and he didn't really have pressure to perform right away.
I would say with Darko it was just a matter of him not loving the game of basketball. He didn't put the work in to continue developing his skill set.
It's crazy to think that he was considered a no brainer at the second pick and no one really second questioned the Pistons for taking him over Melo, Bosh, etc.
I did.... with the benefit of hindsightPorzingis looks to me, like he has the drive internally to succeed. I do think Phil/Fisher will help nurture him along the path toward being a great basketball player, but his overall success won't be environmentally dependent. Some guys just get there. Take Jimmy Butler as the most recent example. How many saw him as a potential all-star coming out of college?
I do. Not all, or even most... but some... yes. I think the bad organizations don't get nearly the blame they should for squandering talent.It almost reads as if you wish to remove some level of culpability from the players themselves for ensuring their own progress & development.