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Per is a great stat for overall production and defensive PER allows you to see how much the opposing player is producing, check Lebron's number's so far:

Player 48-Minute Production by Position
<table bgcolor="#cccccc" border="0" cellspacing="1" width="720"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#33cc33"> <td width="80"><center>Position</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FGA</center></td> <td width="60"><center>eFG%</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FTA</center></td> <td width="60"><center>iFG</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Reb</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Ast</center></td> <td width="50"><center>T/O</center></td> <td width="50"><center>Blk</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PF</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Pts</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PER*</center></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PG</center></td> <td>
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</td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>SF</center></td> <td align="right"> 23.3 </td> <td align="right">0.541 </td> <td align="right"> 11.5 </td> <td align="right"> 36% </td> <td align="right"> 5.5 </td> <td align="right"> 4.4 </td> <td align="right"> 3.4 </td> <td align="right"> 1.1 </td> <td align="right"> 3.4 </td> <td align="right"> 34.8 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00">29.0 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PF</center></td> <td align="right"> 37.9 </td> <td align="right">0.500 </td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right"> 60% </td> <td align="right"> 7.6 </td> <td align="right"> 22.7 </td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right"> 7.6 </td> <td align="right"> 37.9 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00">38.6 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>C</center></td> <td>
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<table bgcolor="#cccccc" border="0" cellspacing="1" width="720"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#33cc33"> <td width="80"><center>Position</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FGA</center></td> <td width="60"><center>eFG%</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FTA</center></td> <td width="60"><center>iFG</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Reb</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Ast</center></td> <td width="50"><center>T/O</center></td> <td width="50"><center>Blk</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PF</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Pts</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PER*</center></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PG</center></td> <td>
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</td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>SF</center></td> <td align="right"> 14.0 </td> <td align="right">0.418 </td> <td align="right"> 5.4 </td> <td align="right"> 20% </td> <td align="right"> 3.8 </td> <td align="right"> 2.9 </td> <td align="right"> 2.3 </td> <td align="right"> 1.5 </td> <td align="right"> 5.0 </td> <td align="right"> 15.7 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00">10.3 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PF</center></td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right">0.000 </td> <td align="right"> 15.2 </td> <td align="right"> 0% </td> <td align="right"> 7.6 </td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right"> 7.6 </td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right"> 15.2 </td> <td align="right"> 7.6 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00"> 0.0 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>C</center></td> <td>
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Net 48-Minute Production by Position
<table bgcolor="#cccccc" border="0" cellspacing="1" width="720"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#99ccff"> <td width="80"><center>Position</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FGA</center></td> <td width="50"><center>eFG%</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FTA</center></td> <td width="50"><center>iFG</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Reb</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Ast</center></td> <td width="50"><center>T/O</center></td> <td width="50"><center>Blk</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PF</center></td> <td width="50"><center>Pts</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PER*</center></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PG</center></td> <td>
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</td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>SF</center></td> <td align="right"> +9.4 </td> <td align="right">+0.123 </td> <td align="right"> +6.1 </td> <td align="right"> +16%</td> <td align="right"> +1.7 </td> <td align="right"> +1.5 </td> <td align="right"> -1.1 </td> <td align="right"> -0.4 </td> <td align="right"> +1.5 </td> <td align="right"> +19.1 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00">+18.7 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PF</center></td> <td align="right"> +37.9 </td> <td align="right">+0.500 </td> <td align="right"> -15.2 </td> <td align="right"> +60%</td> <td align="right"> +0.0 </td> <td align="right"> +22.7 </td> <td align="right"> +7.6 </td> <td align="right"> +0.0 </td> <td align="right"> +7.6 </td> <td align="right"> +30.3 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00">+38.6 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>C</center></td> <td>
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While it is still very early, LeBron's defensive PER isn't bad. Soon that will be tested as marquee match ups enter the picture and we'll get a better idea then.
 
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I've decided to keep an eye on this stat throughout the season and will post updates with other players overall PER production (Player PER-Opposing Player PER) from the position they most frequently play:

Player 48-Minute Production by Position
<table bgcolor="#cccccc" border="0" cellspacing="1" width="720"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#33cc33"> <td width="80"><center>Position</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FGA</center></td> <td width="60"><center>eFG%</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FTA</center></td> <td width="60"><center>iFG</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Reb</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Ast</center></td> <td width="50"><center>T/O</center></td> <td width="50"><center>Blk</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PF</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Pts</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PER*</center></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PG</center></td> <td>
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</td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>SF</center></td> <td align="right"> 23.7 </td> <td align="right">0.566 </td> <td align="right"> 10.6 </td> <td align="right"> 35% </td> <td align="right"> 6.4 </td> <td align="right"> 4.4 </td> <td align="right"> 3.4 </td> <td align="right"> 1.3 </td> <td align="right"> 3.1 </td> <td align="right"> 35.8 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00">30.4 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PF</center></td> <td align="right"> 37.9 </td> <td align="right">0.500 </td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right"> 60% </td> <td align="right"> 7.6 </td> <td align="right"> 22.7 </td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right"> 7.6 </td> <td align="right"> 37.9 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00">37.9 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>C</center></td> <td>
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<table bgcolor="#cccccc" border="0" cellspacing="1" width="720"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#33cc33"> <td width="80"><center>Position</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FGA</center></td> <td width="60"><center>eFG%</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FTA</center></td> <td width="60"><center>iFG</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Reb</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Ast</center></td> <td width="50"><center>T/O</center></td> <td width="50"><center>Blk</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PF</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Pts</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PER*</center></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PG</center></td> <td>
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</td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>SF</center></td> <td align="right"> 16.0 </td> <td align="right">0.413 </td> <td align="right"> 5.6 </td> <td align="right"> 24% </td> <td align="right"> 4.6 </td> <td align="right"> 2.6 </td> <td align="right"> 2.1 </td> <td align="right"> 1.3 </td> <td align="right"> 5.4 </td> <td align="right"> 17.5 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00">10.8 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PF</center></td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right">0.000 </td> <td align="right"> 15.2 </td> <td align="right"> 0% </td> <td align="right"> 7.6 </td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right"> 7.6 </td> <td align="right"> 0.0 </td> <td align="right"> 15.2 </td> <td align="right"> 7.6 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00"> 0.0 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>C</center></td> <td>
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Net 48-Minute Production by Position
<table bgcolor="#cccccc" border="0" cellspacing="1" width="720"> <tbody><tr bgcolor="#99ccff"> <td width="80"><center>Position</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FGA</center></td> <td width="50"><center>eFG%</center></td> <td width="60"><center>FTA</center></td> <td width="50"><center>iFG</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Reb</center></td> <td width="60"><center>Ast</center></td> <td width="50"><center>T/O</center></td> <td width="50"><center>Blk</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PF</center></td> <td width="50"><center>Pts</center></td> <td width="50"><center>PER*</center></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PG</center></td> <td>
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</td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>SF</center></td> <td align="right"> +7.7 </td> <td align="right">+0.152 </td> <td align="right"> +5.1 </td> <td align="right"> +11%</td> <td align="right"> +1.8 </td> <td align="right"> +1.8 </td> <td align="right"> -1.3 </td> <td align="right"> +0.0 </td> <td align="right"> +2.3 </td> <td align="right"> +18.3 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00">+19.6 </td> </tr> <tr bgcolor="#ffffff"> <td><center>PF</center></td> <td align="right"> +37.9 </td> <td align="right">+0.500 </td> <td align="right"> -15.2 </td> <td align="right"> +60%</td> <td align="right"> +0.0 </td> <td align="right"> +22.7 </td> <td align="right"> +7.6 </td> <td align="right"> +0.0 </td> <td align="right"> +7.6 </td> <td align="right"> +30.3 </td> <td align="right" bgcolor="#99ff00">+37.9 </td></tr></tbody></table>

That number is ridiculout: +19.6 at the SF spot. That means he's outproducing they his oppenent by more then what an average starter NBA player produces in a whole game (i.e a PER of 15). So with Lebron on the floor so far we basically have been playing 6 on 5 in terms of production.

Other overall PER-oppenent PERS:
Artest SF 4.6
Pierce SF 9.9
TMac SF 6.7
VC SF 7.7
RJ SF 6.7
Wade SG 16
Bryant SG 13.4

The only one who is close right now is Wade and then behind him Kobe. The season is young and we'll see how this plays out at as the year progresses. Don't buy the hype over overall total numbers of Lebron going down his production by possesion numbers are through the roof right now
 
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I'm curious to know what Dan Dickau's PER is?
 
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Unreal, great all around impact. That offensive output is just sick, sick, sick, sick. His boards and assists are down but he's playing fewer minutes. He might not win MVP if he plays limited minutes (see Duncan last year), but it doesn't matter if the Cavs go to the ECF. The defensive PER is a little misleading though, he has defended some horrid SFs. Can't wait to see how he responds when he's tested defensively with a few elite wings.
 
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Defensive PER aside, just from looking at LeBron closely, he is a little better on the defensive end this season. There's more effort and better technique being employed.
 
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