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Do you understand how you, personally, are responsible for driving away Blazers fans with statements like this?

I don't ask that as an attack. I ask sincerely.

I can't tell if you are unaware or just ignorant in how to deal with people.

Given the odd and touchy nature of this board the last week, it seems the LAST thing you should do is be taking shots at an entire fan base... but what do I know?

Ed O.
amen. I was PM'ed by ABM about the alternative site, and although I wasn't lured away, it's certainly becoming more attractive.
 

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Do you understand how you, personally, are responsible for driving away Blazers fans with statements like this?

I don't ask that as an attack. I ask sincerely.

I can't tell if you are unaware or just ignorant in how to deal with people.

Given the odd and touchy nature of this board the last week, it seems the LAST thing you should do is be taking shots at an entire fan base... but what do I know?

Ed O.
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

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Do you understand how you, personally, are responsible for driving away Blazers fans with statements like this?

I don't ask that as an attack. I ask sincerely.

I can't tell if you are unaware or just ignorant in how to deal with people.

Given the odd and touchy nature of this board the last week, it seems the LAST thing you should do is be taking shots at an entire fan base... but what do I know?

Ed O.
Neither ignorant nor unaware, but really, just annoyed. After all, those were some of the complaints, right? That we're abusing our mod powers and that we don't treat the Blazers board more special than other boards because of the amount of members you guys have here and how active you all are. I'm just saying what everyone else probably believes (though I did mean it in a sarcastic way). Forgive me if I have pissed off the Blazers faithful.

huh. so the link in my sig is illegal, eh? how come nobody has ever said anything?
Links to other message boards; not just links in general. Sorry I didn't make that clarification.
 

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Before this gets out of hand, a couple of points.

First, there is a long-standing policy here of banning people who spam using PMs. That doesn't get much attention because the overwhelming majority of the time, those affected by the ban are straight-up spammers, who, in many cases, joined the site simply in order to recruit to whatever site they have.

Second, the issue of advertising other sites generally hinges on whether those sites are competing with this one or not. Accordingly, a poster publicizing his science-fiction fansite wouldn't be an actionable issue, while a poster publicizing a sports forum would be. Again, the key is the nature of the other site.
 

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Whether you're posting privately or publicly, you're disseminating information. If that information is geared toward steering traffic away from the site, it's not going to be tolerated.
In this case anyway, it's not at all.

Besides the fact that many posters post here as well as on many other boards, the links were provided AFTER the OT Forum banned political posts. Therefore, the OT Forum got out of the business of welcoming or even allowing these posters to use the board. Offering a place for them to post what you forbid them from posting here seems to be aiding you clean out the riff-raff, not competing with you.

I agree with Ed O. that only the mods insulting and condescending attitude has driven posters away, not the obvious fact that "Hey, you mean there are other boards out there?".
 

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For what it's worth, the political threads will be allowed back in this forum IF the poster I messaged agrees to become mod. Still waiting on a response, though I don't think I'm going to get one.
 

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If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

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Baiting, which is what you are doing, is against the rules.

And put a friggin' hair net on!
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For what it's worth, the political threads will be allowed back in this forum IF the poster I messaged agrees to become mod. Still waiting on a response, though I don't think I'm going to get one.
He's probably busy posting with ABM over at ididn'tlinkit.com. :lol:
 

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He's probably busy posting with ABM over at ididn'tlinkit.com. :lol:
I don't care who posts there and here, but I don't think this person posts at that site. But again, it wouldn't matter as long as he Mods here and does a good job of that.
 

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Mr Basel, I haven't been on here as long or as often as a lot of you guys. But in my opinion, this is getting out of hand. I had never seen you on here before until a couple days ago. It seems like you are just on here continuing to stir it up and bait guys into arguing with you. You seem to be upsetting a lot of people. I don't know what happened or what would cause all this drama, but you just keep firing back at these guys left and right. Just let it go, whatever happened. No disrespect intended here man, but if you would quit responding to each and every complaint these guys have, I think this drama would go away. I'm not telling you this to start an argument with you, I just think it would be addition by subtraction, sorry. I just had somebody on here PM me and said they aren't going to come on here any more because of all this. This guy will be missed. Trust me, you all know him well. I don't know what the rules are about calling out a mod in public like I just did, but I hope I don't get banned like everybody else seems to be. I love this place and I wish we could all get back to talking hoops.
 

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Nah, you won't get banned. And yeah, this all has been out of hand. You tell me not to respond to all these complaints, and then the mods will still get blamed for not responding; but if I do respond, well, people are still upset because they think I'm taking shots (which, I'll admit, I have done so with some of my posts, but in MY opinion, it's warranted). Oh, and for what it's worth, I won't miss anybody that leaves. Afterall, I don't know anybody on this site in real life.

You know what, though? I'll stop posting at this Blazers board all-together, including where the basketball discussion takes place. It's what most of you want, anyway. You all can celebrate now.

The next time you'll see me post in here is if OMG acceps the Mod offer (or until we find a Mod for this board). Have fun here; don't miss me too much.
 

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If mods are not consistent in how they moderate, You get stuff like this. Mods on this board really need to take a hard look at the million or so other forums where the mods get hit much harder/faster, and learn how to do it right. It is all about consistency and that is the main missing ingredient in this forum.

I have said this three times in the last year. One of the threads didn't get removed. That's consistency. I have a one in three shot that this thread will not disappear based on its content.

The statement "If you don't like it, talk to an admin" is lame. As a mod you should be able to pull one out that's better than that. Its a kin to "Its my ball and I'm taking it with me". Its no wonder mods get little respect here. And if they don't want others going to another forum, give reason not to. Nazi style tactics to prevent people from abandoning a sinking ship never works.
 

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Either the TOS language means something or it does not. If there is a policy of not allowing PMs containing certain types of information... by all means please let us know. But don't point to an inapplicable portion of the TOS and then act like it pertains.

If I PM a link to a porn site, does that count as a bannable offense? After all, I can't post a link to the porn site. If I PM a political argument to a Blazers fan, is that a bannable offense? After all, I can't post a political argument outside of that other forum.

It totally makes sense that a rule would be in place to prevent mass PMs to people to lure them away from this site... I don't blame anyone for thinking that's wrong. The rule cited, though, doesn't appear to be applicable and that it's being pointed out as seemingly insufficient doesn't appear to be "blubbering".

Ed O.
But it is sufficient. Even if the rule doesn't explicitly say "private messages," it's certainly implied or could be interpreted that way. And even if you (the proverbial "you") don't grasp the implication in that rule already posted -- which is don't deliberately spam advertisements or steer traffic away from the forum out of pure spite -- it should be basic common sense.

You don't like sites with vague rules? Here's a dandy from the site where ABM's posting right now.

8. We can't anticipate all of the things the staff may find unacceptable. Again, it is completely the discretion of ********* staff to enforce any unwritten policies they deem fit, and you are expected to abide by these judgements.
Lollerz, Ed. I couldn't make it up if I tried. And I'm not laughing at how they spelled "judgments."
 

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But it is sufficient. Even if the rule doesn't explicitly say "private messages," it's certainly implied or could be interpreted that way. And even if you (the proverbial "you") don't grasp the implication in that rule already posted -- which is don't deliberately spam advertisements or steer traffic away from the forum out of pure spite -- it should be basic common sense.

You don't like sites with vague rules? Here's a dandy from the site where ABM's posting right now.



Lollerz, Ed. I couldn't make it up if I tried. And I'm not laughing at how they spelled "judgments."
:lol: You just pwned yourself and you don't even realize it!
 

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In all fairness to Basel57, this is not his mess.

Dan, who is from this board and knew how upset we would be, was the mod who went off and upset the apple cart.

Basel57 was left to try to pick up the apples.
 

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:lol: You just pwned yourself and you don't even realize it!
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Lollerz, Ed. I couldn't make it up if I tried. And I'm not laughing at how they spelled "judgments."
And you shouldn't, as both spelling variants are perfectly acceptable and used extensively according to both Merriam-Webster, and The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language.

Since you have provided no link I'll be forced to doubt your veracity.:biggrin:
 

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Can we just get it out in the open about which site he was talking about? Jesus, to the unimformed this is like trying to watch a movie with the sound off.
 
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