Lower half of east is patheticly weak!

6. indiana pacers - lost reggie and ron and gained 30 games from peja. apparently jermaine oneil likes to play basketball when he's not injured. but he's not very good at it. 1/7 against the KNICKS get ur 7 foot *** in the paint son!!!

7. milwaukee - they had the #1 pick in this years draft. granted they were 8th worst team. but going from 8th to about 15th is an improvement.

8. philly - they got a plain nutty amount of money invested in webber, the most inefficient powerforward superstar since someone gave mark madsen 5mil a year. they have utterly no depth. though if there starting 5 could play to 80% of what there capable of each night without getting injured, they'd probably be a 45-50 win team in the east.

9. chicago - if u combined there top 3 players they wouldn't equal kobe. that many role players without kobe = a worse version of the lakers i.e. a lost team

Duh!

the east has be pathetic for years... a decade ago the west sucked. powers is shifting all the time

Auggie said:

the east has be pathetic for years... a decade ago the west sucked. powers is shifting all the time

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The last time the East was somewhat strong was 2001-2002. For the past 4-5 years, .500 ball will get you no worse than 7th.

plus in the east, you play 2x more games against raptors, hawks, bobcats, magic, bucks, ect. (usually). I bet detriot loves to get those 4 free wins.

The C's are terrible too, don't forget :biggrin:

It could easily turn around next season. Orlando is on the way up in a big way. Bucks are decent already and are pretty much playing with a rookie at PG and center. Raptors would be in for major improvement even if they didn't have good cap space. Atlanta is loaded with potential, playing better of late, will get a good big in the draft, has cap space, and has been playing without a point guard this season. Knicks can only get better. Bobcats are going to be very solid with Okafor back and a top 3 draft pick. Boston is young and isn't so bad. Etc.

These teams are struggling this season but the franchises aren't in terrible shape.

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plus in the east, you play 2x more games against raptors, hawks, bobcats, magic, bucks, ect. (usually). I bet detriot loves to get those 4 free wins.

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Detroit has lost to the Hawks twice and didn't the Pistons lose to the Magic a few days ago? The West has its own teams which are mediocre as well such as the Blazers,

Also the Bucks are not that bad of a team. I believe they have made the playoffs 5 of the past 6 years and they are in position to be a 6th seed this year.

Plus some teams match up better with Western Conference teams than Eastern conference teams. The HOrnets for instance have a losing record to the Eastern Conference but a winning record in the Western Conference. The 76ers are above .500 in the Western conference.

Still, there are far more terrible teams in the Eastern Conference and thus fewer competitors. Having an expansion team instituted in your conference also makes it weaker.

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Plus some teams match up better with Western Conference teams than Eastern conference teams. The HOrnets for instance have a losing record to the Eastern Conference but a winning record in the Western Conference. The 76ers are above .500 in the Western conference.

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Might be because teams play more times against their own conference.

I don't mean to sound like a Homer but the Magic can pretty much beat anyone in the league right now.

Now watch them lose to the Raptors tommorow night.

Any team in the league can win on any night, that's what makes the NBA exciting.

Still, Orlando has a very nice young foundation going- definitely coming up.

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Detroit has lost to the Hawks twice and didn't the Pistons lose to the Magic a few days ago? The West has its own teams which are mediocre as well such as the Blazers,

Also the Bucks are not that bad of a team. I believe they have made the playoffs 5 of the past 6 years and they are in position to be a 6th seed this year.

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"The west has mediocre as well such as the blazers,"

Did you forget to add any other teams? O ya thats right, there are no other weak teams besides the blazers!

"Might be because teams play more times against their own conference."

Does that need to be repeated again?

Sorry, but I hate how people are trying to protect the east... They are still the weaker confrence no matter how you try to talk it out.

Bulls are looking primed for the 6th spot in the East, game behind the Pacers/Bucks, and they are on a tear. They have Ben Gordon, Kirk Hinrich, Luol Deng, Tyson Chandler, and Andres Nocioni, all of which except Tyson Chandler look to be potential allstars, and this team could easily develop with the players they have now, into an elite team in the East, in the Pistons very good role player model. Not to mnetion they'll have 2 first round picks, one being a top 3, and a **** load of cap space. The Bulls actually look ready to move into the 2nd round if they play New Jersey in the first round, New Jersey has been pretty easy for Chicago, 2-1 against them on the season, and the only loss was a 1 point loss.

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Bulls are looking primed for the 6th spot in the East, game behind the Pacers/Bucks, and they are on a tear. They have Ben Gordon, Kirk Hinrich, Luol Deng, Tyson Chandler, and Andres Nocioni, all of which except Tyson Chandler look to be potential allstars, and this team could easily develop with the players they have now, into an elite team in the East, in the Pistons very good role player model. Not to mnetion they'll have 2 first round picks, one being a top 3, and a **** load of cap space. The Bulls actually look ready to move into the 2nd round if they play New Jersey in the first round, New Jersey has been pretty easy for Chicago, 2-1 against them on the season, and the only loss was a 1 point loss.

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What argument does that have to do with the east not being weak? The jazz are 3-1 vs the pistons in the last 2 seasons... but does that make the jazz a better team than the pistons? Hell no! That is a weak argument to why the bulls are better. I'm looking at the records and seeing blazers and golden state that suck (golden state underachieving). The rest would be competeing for a playoff spot in the east, probly even 8 for teams like t-wolves, sonics, jazz, hornets, sacramento, lakers, ect. You know houston would be top 5 team if tmac and yao stayed healthy all season long.

You guys can look at potential all day long, but the fact is that the west is better right now, this season, Why are some people trying to tell us that the east isn't weaker than the west. I dont understand.

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What argument does that have to do with the east not being weak? The jazz are 3-1 vs the pistons in the last 2 seasons... but does that make the jazz a better team than the pistons? Hell no! That is a weak argument to why the bulls are better. I'm looking at the records and seeing blazers and golden state that suck (golden state underachieving). The rest would be competeing for a playoff spot in the east, probly even 8 for teams like t-wolves, sonics, jazz, hornets, sacramento, lakers, ect. You know houston would be top 5 team if tmac and yao stayed healthy all season long.

You guys can look at potential all day long, but the fact is that the west is better right now, this season, Why are some people trying to tell us that the east isn't weaker than the west. I dont understand.

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Now, i normally wouldn't start out a post like this, but hey *******, did I ever mention anything about the East not being weaker than the West? Reading is fundamental, <strike>go back to kindergarten, apparently you missed to many days.</strike> I was just making a case for why the Bulls aren't just destined to be some weak pathetic team.

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Now, i normally wouldn't start out a post like this, but hey *******, did I ever mention anything about the East not being weaker than the West? Reading is fundamental, go back to kindergarten, apparently you missed to many days. I was just making a case for why the Bulls aren't just destined to be some weak pathetic team.

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Hey *******, you ever heard of staying on topic? The fact is that the bulls are under .500 by 6 games. Then you try to compare the nets to the bulls and saying that the bulls are 2-1 against them and only lost by 1 point on the loss. That is not an arguement of why the bulls are the best. Because I could say the jazz>pistons with your logic. When you look at the record and you see the bulls are the 9th seed under .500 by quite a bit, then you know the east is weak. The sad thing is a team with like 12 loses under .500 isn't elimanated yet. I know what you posted, and I read it. That doesn't make an arguement "On topic" of why the east isn't weak or the sub .500 bulls are not weak. (how many injuries have they had this year?)

3 words

Pistons and Heat

Who cares? There are only two or three teams in each conference with a chance to make to the finals anyway.