[BullsNews]

DISCLAIMER: I have taken 2 sleeping pills (restoril) and 2 muscle relaxers (soma), so this post may be crazy, but...

Milwaukee wants Best, that's well known. And you'd think that maybe they'd like to move Tim Thomas- he's the highest-paid 6th man in the league, and they have no room for him- Allen is going nowhere, same with Cassell, and Big Dog is pretty untradeable right about now. So why not trade a 6th man that you owe $60+ mil over the next five seasons?

And what about Earvin Johnson- he got almost 4 mil to play 20 minutes/night, and his contract has 3 years remaining. Pryzbilla is their starter, and they've also got Mark Pope and Alesander Radojevic as free agents who will cost a lot less than what Earvin makes.

So here it goes...

Chicago trades:

ERob
Fizer
Best
Hassell

Milwaukee trades:

Tim Thomas
Earvin Johnson

The Bulls clear a log-jam at the 2/3, with Rose and Thomas getting almost all of the minutes there. And they get a solid, defensive/rebounding/shot-blocking back-up center for the next 3 years. And we fulfill Rose's wish of having a veteran at every position-

PG- Rose
SG- Mayor
SF- TT
PF- Blount
C- Non-Magic Johnson

That's a good veteran line-up with 2 very good defenders/rebounders at the 4/5, Rose and Thomas to provide the scoring, and Fred for the 3-pt specialist (although Fred's D is underrated, and he's a decent rebounder as well).

This also means that we still have the MLE to spend on Harpring, who will bring even more defense and exerience to the team.


PG- Crawford/Williams
SG- Rose/Hoiberg
SF- Thomas/Harpring
PF- Chandler/Blount/Baxter
C- Curry/Johnson/Bags

Richardson, Mason, Tim Hardaway? or some FA vet PG



But would the Bucks do it?

They get the PG they want in Best.

They get an outstanding young defender and all-around player in Hassell, who is by the way signed for 2 more years on the cheap.

They get Fizer, who can take Mason's place at PF.

And they get ERob to be their 6th man, filling Thomas' role (not as well as TT played it, but for $7 mil/season less, I think he'd work out just fine).

And the Bucks only have 9 players under contract (not counting their draft picks), so a 2-for-4 swap makes sense for them.


So, what do you think?

 

[Dan Rosenbaum]

At first, I thought we were taking on too much in salary, but this works if Best is signed for more $3.6M.

Sicky coined a term "deadweight" for players with contracts that pay them more than they would be worth on the open market. I suspect that ERob could get $2M-$4M still on the open market, so his deadweight is $2M-$4M.

Thomas, on the other hand, probably could not fetch anything more than the mid-level exception, implying that his deadweight is probably around $6M and rising in later years.

Thomas's contract will kill us in the likely event that either Curry, Chandler, or JWill are near max players. They are likely to be outproducing Thomas, perhaps by quite a bit, and will expect to be paid at least as well as he is.

Thomas does fill a niche for this team but at too high of a price.

But I like your thinking on this trade.

 

[BamaBull]

Was interesting, but I say.....

Originally posted by NCBullsFan
At first, I thought we were taking on too much in salary, but this works if Best is signed for more $3.6M.

Sicky coined a term "deadweight" for players with contracts that pay them more than they would be worth on the open market. I suspect that ERob could get $2M-$4M still on the open market, so his deadweight is $2M-$4M.

Thomas, on the other hand, probably could not fetch anything more than the mid-level exception, implying that his deadweight is probably around $6M and rising in later years.

Thomas's contract will kill us in the likely event that either Curry, Chandler, or JWill are near max players. They are likely to be outproducing Thomas, perhaps by quite a bit, and will expect to be paid at least as well as he is.

Thomas does fill a niche for this team but at too high of a price.

But I like your thinking on this trade.

I agree with your thinking on this plus, we have already traded our best defender on this team once(artest)albeit, we got jalen in the trade, but hassell could still be the steal of last years draft! Besides, Thomas snubbed us when he wanted to be with his "daddy figure" in george karl. No way! GO BULLS!~~~:no:

 

[HAWK23]

we don't trade hassell yet.. he is basically a clone of artest with out the attitude... he is quiet and he does his business, he doesn't mind coming off the bench.. he is a coach's dream keep the guy

 

[settinUpShop]

Good pick-up guys. I agree, Hassell makes this trade too expensive. He's got great value for a team. Also, looking at what TT makes as a 6th man, should make us a bit more happy about Erob potentially being a sixth man at his contract, especially if he's all healthy - of course there's his defense...

We've got a lot of young grass growing on our team right now. If you expose all of that young grass to too much abuse (both physically and mentally) then you risk it dying or at least suffering stunted growth. However, if you protect it with straw and fodder then you protect the young blades from damage.

Any vet we pick-up should be thought of as straw and fodder. They're there to protect our youngin's and keep them healthy. They should be good enough to inspire the young one's to play hard every night, and feel the presure of keeping their name in the starting line-up. It would be nice if they were kept around for more than a year, IF they meld with the other players, that could add some nice contenuity and chemistry to the team. But if they do not prove their worth, they are dropped with little loss and little worry.

 

[BullsNews]

So if we trade Dali instead of Hassell, most of you would be OK with it?

 

[HAWK23]

Originally posted by BullsNews
So if we trade Dali instead of Hassell, most of you would be OK with it?

even then I don't know still, Fizer Best and EROB is a lot, the point is we dont trade Hassell yet, I think he'll be a very loyal player.. (may re-sign with us for a lil less than what he deserves) he seems like that kind of player

 

[DSB]

Originally posted by HAWK23
we don't trade hassell yet.. he is basically a clone of artest with out the attitude... he is quiet and he does his business, he doesn't mind coming off the bench.. he is a coach's dream keep the guy

Well said!