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Yours was not a list or about any of the other players. Your was a attack on the Yankees and then accusing Cano and Granderson. The post you merged was ALOT different from your attack that had no base
I didn't "accuse" anyone of anything. The blogger that first broke the Melky Cabrera story broke another and I posted it. And sure enough months later all those guys turn up as part of a juicing investigation in which Pay Rod and Braun stand to be suspended 100 games as repeat offenders.
 

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Seems ridiculous to bust them for 100 games after one failed test that wasn't even a failed test. The Players Union will not allow this...no chance.
 

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Sources tell OTL MLB confronted Braun with volumes of evidence provided by Tony Bosch, including texts.

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Braun also threatened to sue over initial reports that he was connected to Biogenesis.

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When he failed his test, Braun initially said he was the "victim of a flawed process." Also suggested drug collector had been out to get him

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Braun (2): "I am willing to accept the consequences of those actions. This situation has taken a toll on me and my entire family..."

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Braun: “As I have acknowledged in the past, I am not perfect. I realize now that I have made some mistakes."

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No word yet on other players.

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Braun is not fighting suspension, which starts immediately. Apologizes to teammates, fans and team.
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Based on rough calculations, it looks like Ryan Braun will lose $3.78 million due to his suspension.
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I don't understand. We've been told for months that these things are 50 or 100 games and that players always appeal.

Plea bargain? Is he cooperating?
 

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I don't understand. We've been told for months that these things are 50 or 100 games and that players always appeal.

Plea bargain? Is he cooperating?
Under the MLB drug policy, players who fail drug tests and do not win appeals are suspended for 50 games for a first offense, 100 games for a second and face a lifetime ban for a third. But because the Biogenesis investigation involved "non-analytical" evidence, in other words something other than a failed drug test, those penalties did not apply.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/216496651.html
 

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Statement from MLBPA executive director Michael Weiner regarding Ryan Braun

"I am deeply gratified to see Ryan taking this bold step. It vindicates the rights of all players under the Joint Drug Program. It is good for the game that Ryan will return soon to continue his great work both on and off the field."

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Never gotten mail/messages from fans like I have from people in Milwaukee about Braun. They're going to be crushed. People believed in him.

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People keep asking me why Braun, why now: I don't know.

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If plan for other players is to attack Bosch's credibility, Braun just made that very difficult.

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Source tells OTL Braun was first player MLB was building a case against. A-Rod last. Initially decision was to announce all at once.
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A-Rod will be a different story. MLB's case against him includes possibility he interfered with investigation. They'll go after him harder.

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Source also tells OTL evidence provided about A-Rod is "far beyond" what Bosch gave them re Braun.
 

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Can these teams recoup any money from the players? Shit, I wish Dan Uggla was on someone's list.
I think thats what the unpaid thing is all about, braun is probably owed one hell of a sum for the rest of the season that the brewers wont have to shell out now...glad MLB decided to do it to Braun this year. This season is lost and now we can all look forward to a fresh start in 2014
 

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Can these teams recoup any money from the players? Shit, I wish Dan Uggla was on someone's list.
Pretty much a guarantee that you keep everything except what you lose in a suspension. You can bet your ass the Selig isn't going to the mattresses with the MLBPA. Everyone is making a lot of money and no one if going to cry over the Yankees bamboozling themselves into giving A-Rod all that money.
 

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Pretty much a guarantee that you keep everything except what you lose in a suspension. You can bet your ass the Selig isn't going to the mattresses with the MLBPA. Everyone is making a lot of money and no one if going to cry over the Yankees bamboozling themselves into giving A-Rod all that money.
Yea I don't see what leg they'd have to stand on to recoup salaries already paid for work performed, cheating or not.
 

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I realize now that I've made some mistakes?
These guys would be so much better off being a man and accepting responsibility right off the bat. The always come off looking so much dumber the longer it drags out
 

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This is a sports tragedy in Milwaukee... Braun is arguably the best player in the franchise's history, and short of guys like Lew Alcindor, Favre, Rodgers, Hank Aaron etc..., he's as big/accomplished a sports figure as you'll find in the state. Pretty sad, I particularly feel bad for kids who grew up watching him. And for roux... sorry brother.

Braun deserves whatever he gets at this point. Cancel the cooperstown plans. **** his cheating ass.
 

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This is a sports tragedy in Milwaukee... Braun is arguably the best player in the franchise's history, and short of guys like Lew Alcindor, Favre, Rodgers, Hank Aaron etc..., he's as big/accomplished a sports figure as you'll find in the state. Pretty sad, I particularly feel bad for kids who grew up watching him. And for roux... sorry brother.

Braun deserves whatever he gets at this point. Cancel the cooperstown plans. **** his cheating ass.
I actually do feel bad for the youngsters that idolized Braun. I just have to go back in time in my head to my youth watching Yount and Molitor and I feel good again.. these kids don't have that luxury
 
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