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My Offseason Ideas...Yours?

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Here are my thoughts for potential offseason trades\draft and Free Agency...

NY had interest in both Miles & Theo...I would pursue a deal with NY...dealing Miles & Theo to NY for Jalen Rose (expiring next year) and if possible a draft pick (#21 this year)...or at least a swap of picks...POR #29 for NY #21...

Lets assume Miles, Theo & #29 are dealt for Rose & #21

Then I would look to offload Zach...I would look towards CHI 1st, seeing if I could pry that NY pick and some filler from them...possibly TOR (see if they had interest, they do have interest in dealing their pick)....HOU & MIN could be possible destinations as well...I don't think it is a necessity to deal Zach, but I would certainly be actively shopping him....

Lets assume POR retains Zach another year

I would re-sign Pryzbilla...this is a tough call, b\c to be prudent you want to gauge where his market value is, but to show how much you want\value him, you want to offer him asap...but by doing so you risk overpaying him...the good thing here is that POR is limited by how much they can pay, so an error in overvauling his market value (and that may not even be the case) is not as large as it was for Darius Miles for example...So I would offer him the MAX deal I could, and I would m ake sure he knew about it beforehand and that it was the 1st contract he recieved...these are little things in the big picture, but they have an significant impact....

Lets assume POR retains Pryzbilla at a MAX or near full MAX deal

The draft

Let's assume POR gets a #1 pick....I would take Adam Morrison

with the 21st pick I would go big...Josh Boone would be a good target...if he is not available I would look towards Craig Smith, Paul Milsap, Paul Davis or Justin Williams...or if a good wing fell there...like a Rudy Fernandez for example...I would look take him instead...

Lets assume POR gets Josh Boone at #21 (this could be a stretch, b\c there is a decent possibility he could go earlier

With the 2nd round pick...getting a Justin Williams would be ideal,...but I think he will go 1st round...So guys like Marcus Slaughter, Rashad Anderson, Hassan Adams, Marquinhos, Jones, White & Gansey all intrigue me...Best player available should determine who to pick here

Let's assume POR takes Hassan Adams

Adam Morrison #1
Josh Boone #21
Hassan Adams #31

That would be a good draft for POR IMO

Then you have....

PG - Telfair, Jack
SG - Rose, Webster, Dixon, Adams
SF - Morrison, Khryapa
PF - Zach, Skinner, Boone
C - Pryzbilla, Perkins, Ha

Both Rose and Webster could slide b\t SF & SG...
Rose & Dixon could play some PG as well....
Khryapa could play SF\PF
Boone, Skinner & Perkins could play PF\C

This leaves POR a FA to possibly look for.. and I actually think this year Free Agency is good for "quality" big men...by that I mean the type that POR can afford with their MLE

**clarification** This may be a moot point if POR has to use their MLE on Pryzbilla...I am unclear if they do or do not....I would love some clarification.

Here is a short list of players I would be interested in, and I tried to list them in order of interest: Jackie Butler PF\C (RFA), Melvin Ely PF\C (RFA), Francisco Elson PF\C (RFA)....Restricted Free Agents are trickier to sign, and would probably cost more (full MLE or very close to it most likely)...IF POR has no MLE then these guys (and most UFA for that matter) this would be a moot point....even if they have the MLE to spend...it may be easier to opt for an UFA...guys like: Reggie Evans, Lorrenzen Wright, Alan Henderson, Keith Van Horn (yes him), Scott Pollard, Kelvin Cato, Lonny Baxter, Ervin Johnson, Marcus Fizer...

A Non-PF\C who interests me is John Salmons (RFA)...A big guard who can play PG\SG and who has looked better

If POR is interested and could get a guy like Baxter\Pollard...that would be ideal ...all things considered...Johnson\Fizer could work as well...

Let's assume POR passes on FA

That leaves Blake & Outlaw to either keep or deal.... I would gauge the interest level for both...Possibly looking to deal them together, or if neceessary add them to a deal to offload Theo or Miles, or sweeten a deal for Zach...

Some ideas to deal Blake & Outlaw to\for:

HOU - For Mutumbo (expiring in 07') and 06' pick (#11)

TOR - For either Bonner or Araujo and #5 pick (POR would need to include #21\#29 pick)...

Philly - For J.Salmons (Philly would need to pick up his RFA 1st...I think)

N.O - For Macijauskas and 06' pick (#18) or a swap of just Travis for JR Smith

ATL - For Josh Childress

BOS - Just Travis for Kendrick Perkins (BOS has had interest in Outlaw)

CHI - Travis for Mike Sweetney and a swap of picks - CHI #12 for POR #21

DEN - Travis to DEN for Fransisco Elson (DEN would need to pick up his RFA 1st...I think...Thye also have shown interest in Outlaw)

NJ - For S.Padgett (expiring) and the rights to M.Ilic

Let's assume POR trades Outlaw to BOS for Kendrick Perkins

Another possibility is POR could use Blake (or Outlaw) to trade up from #21/#29 to mid\late lottery...Teams like NO, UTA, PHILLY, HOU, IND & SAC could all have interest in Blake...targeting a team like UTA would be a good idea if Patrick O'Bryant was on the board for example, or to insure getting Boone...or another player POR may have targeted (Carney, Brewer, Collins, Redick, Foye, Fernandez)....

There are lots of possibilities, it should be interesting to see what POR mgmt does...

I do think though that the top priority for POR should be offloading Miles and Theo...To get an expiring contract like Rose's would be perfect...Dealing Zach would be 2nd IMO, b\c I just don't think he is the long term solution here...They should explore dealing Blake & Outlaw, but I would be fine with them returning....

Your thoughts?
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I just have one offseason idea.

1) Don't let Paul Allen anywhere near the personnel decisions for the team this offseason. Just hand John Nash (or whoever the GM is going to be) the keys and see what he can do.

-Pop
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All I want is Miles gone, and wouldnt mind Zach gone also.
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Seems Chris Wilcox is missing from the RFA list.

Also I would draft big over Morrison. Portlands problems are on its front line, and I question whether Morrison is worth the #1 pick. If Portland just got enough guys to hit the boards to get 10 more rebounds a game, they would be competitive in the league again.
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Trade Miles and Theo to NY for Rose and #21.

Trade Zach, Skinner, Dixon and #21 along with next years pick to Indiana for Jermaine Oneal

Trade Blake and Outlaw to NOK for #16ish

That gives Portland picks 1, 16, 30 ish

Draft

1. Morrison/Noah if he comes out

2. O'Bryant/Williams/Brewer depending on who goes number 1

3. Pittsnogle/Boone

Those would be my picks. I realize they might not all be available when we select.


That gives us potentialy

Oneal/O'Bryant/Ha
Khryapa/Pittsnogle
Morrison/Rose/Khryapa
Webster/Rose
Telfair/Jack

Or something like

Oneal/Boone
Noah/Khryapa/Boone
Rose/Khryapa/Brewer
Webster/Rose
Telfair/Jack


Whatever. Anyway I think both those teams are extremely more competetive than the team this year. Much better defensively, and much better in terms of players with good "motors"
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First act at end of season is to inform Joel P of our offer of the FULL MLE for one year deal. After this next season then he could be a UFA and possibly get market value. We are limited to only offering the MLE this year and then do not have it to offer to other players if Joel is retained.

Second act would be to do the Theo/Miles for JRose deal. Theo is injury prone and wanting out of our rebuilding plan. Miles still doesn't understand effort on a nightly basis - especially since he "made it" in signing his big contract.

Third - draft big. Morrison may be the second coming of Larry Legend - but we need front court help with defense and rebounding. Draft Aldridge or Thomas or Bargnani first. Height matters.

Fourth - Keep Nash a consultant. Make Pritchard GM. He's ready for the job.

Fifth - hope we don't improve all that much next season and we end up somehow in the running for the #1 pick again. We need another big next year too. Drafting a couple of big players (Forwards or mini-Centers) gives us flexibility to shop Zach around. He's fallen in love with the less effective jumper compared to his inside game of high percentage. We need a player to play down low and punish the opposition. Good free throw % and being able to dunk are prerequisites for this player!!!
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I like most of the original proposal. Miles and Theo need to move on. I like Zach's work ethic, but he isn't a good fit for this team and isn't the kind of max player they need.

I would not do this:

Trade Zach, Skinner, Dixon and #21 along with next years pick to Indiana for Jermaine Oneal
Jermaine is not the answer. This team will be bad for another year. I wouldn't do anything that would remove their chances of getting Oden or Mayo. I guess if the pick traded was lottery protected for at least three years, then maybe.
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Reep said:
I like most of the original proposal. Miles and Theo need to move on. I like Zach's work ethic, but he isn't a good fit for this team and isn't the kind of max player they need.

I would not do this:



Jermaine is not the answer. This team will be bad for another year. I wouldn't do anything that would remove their chances of getting Oden or Mayo. I guess if the pick traded was lottery protected for at least three years, then maybe.

So you be placing your hopes that Portland gets the number one pick two years in a row
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Seems Chris Wilcox is missing from the RFA list.
Yes, I would certainly like to see POR get him, unfortunately, if they resign Pryzbilla, there is no way that can happen...in fact I wrote all that Free Agency stuff, and then came to the conclusion that except for a $1mil player it was moot, as POR would not have that MLE to use, having used it on Joel...I doubt Wilcox will resign for anywhere near that amount, and even though SEA is cheap, I think they will resign him.

Also I would draft big over Morrison. Portlands problems are on its front line, and I question whether Morrison is worth the #1 pick. If Portland just got enough guys to hit the boards to get 10 more rebounds a game, they would be competitive in the league again.
Whether Morrison is worth the #1 pick is a very valid debate....I disagree with your premise that rebounding is the root of POR problem....POR is dead last in scoring if I recall, I think that has a LOT more to do with the teams' woes than rebounding....Pryzbilla's injury & Zach unwillingness IMO are a big reason for POR rebounding problems...

I also think POR can effectively address this problem, either later in the draft...scoring is not so easy to find later in the draft IMO.

I really like Josh Boone...but Craig Smith, Justin Williams and Marcus Slaughter intrigue me as well...
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I don't have any specific ideas or trade scenarios. All I want to see this off-season is:

1. Stripping down of the current roster to just those players Nate wants to bring back next season. (I realize that this is a virtual impossibility, and also that it would likely require a new GM).

2. Obtaining a bonafide "superstar", or two, even if via the draft (which would likely mean a couple years before he/they step into the spotlight). (And I realize that this will also be very, very difficult to accomplish.)

3. Restructuring the rest of the roster (via trades, draft) to the point that Nate is "happy" ("happy" being a relative term) with what he has to work with going into Fall camp.

4. Empowering true leadership among the roster.

5. Ownership situation resolved (one way or another), so it doesn't become an even bigger distraction next season.

If they can get all that done this Summer, I'd be happy with the level of off-season activity.

I am purposely staying away from naming specific players, because any time we get into those kinds of discussions they tend to take on a life of their own (and because it's just too early - on the draft AND trade fronts - to be talking about specific players right now).

PBF
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mediocre man said:
Trade Miles and Theo to NY for Rose and #21.

Trade Zach, Skinner, Dixon and #21 along with next years pick to Indiana for Jermaine Oneal

Trade Blake and Outlaw to NOK for #16ish

That gives Portland picks 1, 16, 30 ish

Draft

1. Morrison/Noah if he comes out

2. O'Bryant/Williams/Brewer depending on who goes number 1

3. Pittsnogle/Boone

Those would be my picks. I realize they might not all be available when we select.


That gives us potentialy

Oneal/O'Bryant/Ha
Khryapa/Pittsnogle
Morrison/Rose/Khryapa
Webster/Rose
Telfair/Jack

Or something like

Oneal/Boone
Noah/Khryapa/Boone
Rose/Khryapa/Brewer
Webster/Rose
Telfair/Jack


Whatever. Anyway I think both those teams are extremely more competetive than the team this year. Much better defensively, and much better in terms of players with good "motors"
ME LIKE IT!! Especially if you can throw in us signing Joel and move Jermaine to the PF spot.
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Kmurph said:
Yes, I would certainly like to see POR get him, unfortunately, if they resign Pryzbilla, there is no way that can happen...in fact I wrote all that Free Agency stuff, and then came to the conclusion that except for a $1mil player it was moot, as POR would not have that MLE to use, having used it on Joel...I doubt Wilcox will resign for anywhere near that amount, and even though SEA is cheap, I think they will resign him.



Whether Morrison is worth the #1 pick is a very valid debate....I disagree with your premise that rebounding is the root of POR problem....POR is dead last in scoring if I recall, I think that has a LOT more to do with the teams' woes than rebounding....Pryzbilla's injury & Zach unwillingness IMO are a big reason for POR rebounding problems...

I also think POR can effectively address this problem, either later in the draft...scoring is not so easy to find later in the draft IMO.

I really like Josh Boone...but Craig Smith, Justin Williams and Marcus Slaughter intrigue me as well...
Actually look at the root of the problem Kmurph. Portland actually shoots the ball at a pretty decent clip (approximately 45%) and is in the middle of the league in turnovers. You say the problem is scoring. I say the problem is the amount of posessions Portland has to score on. Sure Portland can use some better execution. Sure Portland can use a go to guy. But if Portland got 10 more posessions a game off the defensive boards and took 10 touches away from the other team, you have a game swing of about 18 points. Considering Portland has been losing a lot of games by about that amount, and gets no defensive presence from Zbo, if you bring in a guy who does bring that presence and that board effort, Portland will start to win their share of games.

If you just think about the games, how many situations were there where the Blazers were trying to fight to get back into a game, and getting stops, but teams just get offensive rebound after offensive rebound. End the cycle. Take back the paint. Its just like football where if you lose the battle in the trenches, you lose the fight 95% of the time. The same with the paint. If the Blazers take back the paint, they will start winning more then they are losing. I can live with games where some dude like Ray Allen is unconscious fromt the outside and gets a win for his team. I can't handle it though when the team doesn't work hard for posessions and lets games get away just because they didn't focus and keep their effort up.
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I agree that Portland's dearth of bigs is hurting them. I'm not convinced at all that it's because of effort (or lack thereof).

Look at the focus of the Blazers' first rounders since Zach:

2005: Webster, Jack
2004: Telfair, Monia, Khryapa
2003: Outlaw
2002: Woods

Hrm... there's a pattern there. No power forwards and no centers. Draft position isn't the key, either, considering we've had high picks and low.

On other fronts, we've added Joel via free agency and Theo and Skinner via trade. But we've lost Sabonis to retirement, Rasheed and Dale Davis in trade and SAR in free agency.

The well is dry, and if Joel leaves it'll get even worse.

I'm absolutely a "best player available" guy when it comes to draft time, but I think when you keep drafting guards and small forwards you need to get quality bigs from other places or you're going to lose. And probably lose a lot.

The more I think of it, the more I think (or hope, maybe) that the Blazers will end up with Aldridge. I think that he's a guy that can play on the same front line with Zach against most teams and we just need more quality size on our team in the long run.

Ed O.
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Portland trades the 30 and the 2nd rounder for a late-1st next year.
Portland drafts Adam Morrison.
Portland trades Darius Miles & Juan Dixon for PJ Brown (expiring).
Portland resigns Voshon Lenard for 1 year at the minimum.
Portland signs Lorenzen Wright to the mid-level exemption (3 years).

New roster:

06-07:
PG: Telfair, Jack
SG: Webster, (Outlaw), (Jack), (Khryapa), Lenard
SF: Outlaw, Adam Morrison, Khryapa
PF: Randolph, (Brown), Skinner
C: Lorenzen Wright, PJ Brown, Ratliff, Ha

Without Miles and with Outlaw at the 3, we'll be poor enough to get Oden.
Trade late 1st and early 2nd for earlier 1st.

07-08:

PG: Telfair, Jack, BenchVet
SG: Webster, (Khryapa), 2nd07, (Jack), BenchVet
SF: Morrison, Outlaw, Khryapa, (Splitter)
PF: Randolph, (Wright), Tiago Splitter, (Khryapa)
C: Greg Oden, Wright, Ratliff, Ha

- At the deadline, you deal Travis Outlaw, 1st rounder in 08, and Theo Ratliff for Paul Pierce.
- Resign Pierce.

08-09:

PG: Telfair, Jack,
SG: Webster, Khryapa, (Morrison), 2nd07, BenchVet
SF: Paul Pierce, Morrison, Khryapa, Splitter
PF: Randolph, BenchVet, (Wright), (Splitter), 2nd08
C: Oden, Wright, Ha

Now, you have a ROY Center (Oden), a PF hitting his prime (Randolph), a cagey sharpshooter vet (Pierce), a sparkplug scorer off the bench (Morrison), a budding star (Webster), two decent point guards (TJ), and projects (Splitter, Ha).

That squad, with the right skill vets and decent maturation on the part of the team, should compete for a playoff spot, and will be primed for the future.
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Off-Season Plan:

NBA Draft, LaMarcus Aldridge:

Blazers Draft LaMarcus Aldridge-They do this so that Ratliff will start for the next year, as you've seen Ratliff means quite a bit to our team, this means letting Joel Przybilla go. Ratliff will most likely get hurt which mean that LaMarcus will have streaks of games where he will start and get PT.

DET Pick: PJ Tucker- This might be a little bit of a reach, but he is a good/great rebounder and could fight Viktor and TO for position at the 3 spot.

2nd rounder: Allan Ray- doesn't have 2 size at 6'2, but can be 3rd string SG and 3rd string PG since Blake will be gone.

Depth Chart at this point:
C- Theo Ratliff / LaMarcus Aldridge / Ha
PF- Zach Randolph / Brian Skinner
SF- Viktor Khyrapa / Travis Outlaw / PJ Tucker / Darius Miles*
SG- Martell Webster/ Juan Dixon / Allan Ray
PG- Sebastian Telfair / Jarrett Jack / Steve Blake*

*will be traded

Free Agency:
I wouldn't sign anyone here, FA this year is quite week and we do not need to add any extra salary onto this roster.

Our Free Agents:
Joel Przybilla- Not resigned
Voshon Lenard- Not resigned


Trades:
Darius Miles and Steve Blake to NY for Maurice Taylor, future pick??


New Depth Chart:
C- Theo Ratliff / LaMarcus Aldridge / Ha
PF- Zach Randolph / Brian Skinner / Maurice Taylor
SF- Viktor Khyrapa / Travis Outlaw / PJ Tucker
SG- Martell Webster/ Juan Dixon / Allan Ray
PG- Sebastian Telfair / Jarrett Jack


The reason we draft Aldridge this year is because next year, in the Top 5 there are some damn good SF's especially Kevin Durant, and Aldridge will be atleast a decent C for a more reasonable price than if we resigned Joel.
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mediocre man said:
So you be placing your hopes that Portland gets the number one pick two years in a row
Do you really think it is likely that Portland will not be in the running for the first pick, at least next year if not for the next two years? You don't throw away a high first round pick when the next potentially great big man is coming out. There is nobody in the 2006 draft that is going to get Portland to the playoffs. Portland will be in the lotter, and will likely be one of the 5 worst teams next year. If that is the case, then that pick will have a good shot at landing Oden, or someone else very good (Noah after gaining 30 lbs. :biggrin: ).
I agree that LaMarcus is the man right now. He has a amazing shooting stroke, and some decent post moves. If Nate can light a fire under his *** and get him to play with passion he will easily be the best player in this years draft.

My offseason(assuming we have picks #1, #30 and #31)...

1) Trade Darius Miles, Theo Ratliff and #30 to New York for Jalen Rose, Jackie Butler(Re-signed for 3 years at half the MLE) and Denvers 1st round pick

WHY? Miles and Ratliff have worn out their welcome and simply would be much better on the Knicks than on our rebuilding team. Jalen expires next offseason. Jackie Butler is one of the most underrated players in the league and I would rather have him than Frye. The 1st rounder makes it all gravy.

2) Trade Zach Randolph, Travis Outlaw, Brian Skinner, #21 and a top 3 protected 2007 1st round pick for Jermaine O'Neal.

WHY? This franchise needs a face, an image. While Jermaine is not a top 5 player, when healthy he is a real force. We give up alot, but still retain a chance at getting Oden by placing protection on the pick.

3) Draft LaMarcus Aldridge with the #1 pick in the 2006 draft.

WHY? O'Neal and LaMarcus....potentially the best PF/C combo in the NBA within 2 years. Both are athletic, can run the floor, block shots, shoot the midranged J and rebound. I would absolutley love that 7' foot tandem.

4) Draft PJ Tucker with the 31st pick in the 2006 NBA draft

WHY? Tucker is alot like Patterson with a brain and passing skills. He is tough, plays with passion and can rebound well. I think he is going to be a much better player than Hassan Adams, a guy who plays much like him.

06/07 Roster
PG- Sebastion Telfair/Jarrett Jack
SG- Martell Webster/Juon Dixon
SF- Jalen Rose/Viktor Khryapa/PJ Tucker
PF- Jermaine O'Neil/Jackie Butler/PJ Tucker
C- LaMarcus Aldridge/Jackie Butler
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ThatBlazerGuy said:
I agree that LaMarcus is the man right now. He has a amazing shooting stroke, and some decent post moves. If Nate can light a fire under his *** and get him to play with passion he will easily be the best player in this years draft.

My offseason(assuming we have picks #1, #30 and #31)...

1) Trade Darius Miles, Theo Ratliff and #30 to New York for Jalen Rose, Jackie Butler(Re-signed for 3 years at half the MLE) and Denvers 1st round pick

WHY? Miles and Ratliff have worn out their welcome and simply would be much better on the Knicks than on our rebuilding team. Jalen expires next offseason. Jackie Butler is one of the most underrated players in the league and I would rather have him than Frye. The 1st rounder makes it all gravy.

2) Trade Zach Randolph, Travis Outlaw, Brian Skinner, #21 and a top 3 protected 2007 1st round pick for Jermaine O'Neal.

WHY? This franchise needs a face, an image. While Jermaine is not a top 5 player, when healthy he is a real force. We give up alot, but still retain a chance at getting Oden by placing protection on the pick.

3) Draft LaMarcus Aldridge with the #1 pick in the 2006 draft.

WHY? O'Neal and LaMarcus....potentially the best PF/C combo in the NBA within 2 years. Both are athletic, can run the floor, block shots, shoot the midranged J and rebound. I would absolutley love that 7' foot tandem.

4) Draft PJ Tucker with the 31st pick in the 2006 NBA draft

WHY? Tucker is alot like Patterson with a brain and passing skills. He is tough, plays with passion and can rebound well. I think he is going to be a much better player than Hassan Adams, a guy who plays much like him.

06/07 Roster
PG- Sebastion Telfair/Jarrett Jack
SG- Martell Webster/Juon Dixon
SF- Jalen Rose/Viktor Khryapa/PJ Tucker
PF- Jermaine O'Neil/Jackie Butler/PJ Tucker
C- LaMarcus Aldridge/Jackie Butler
No way i would hate that roster.We give up to much for jermaine whos to say he even wants to come here after we traded him.Lamarcus has a bad hip supposedly.
No way i would hate that roster.We give up to much for jermaine whos to say he even wants to come here after we traded him.Lamarcus has a bad hip supposedly.
Ya, the SF position is quite weak. But consider Jalen expires after next season and we would have a consiterable amount of cap space to chase a guy such as Josh Howard, Mickael Pietrus, Peja, Boris Diaw or possibly Rashard Lewis.
Under my deal, the Blazers would have a reasonable payroll of 53.8 million in 07-08 and 63.6 million after signing Pierce to a 3 year deal in 08-09.
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