[kansasalumn]

I think you guys need a backup PG, and a possible PG with expereince since Kidd is a FA after next season (I beleive, let me know if defferetn). How about Jacque Vaughn. He is a very expereice back up PG, and he can help the team termounsly. However, I do not see him with the Nets b/c he probly wants to join a team that he can play more than 10 minutes. That how much backing up kidd would be.

On a side note, After Kidd left HS, Vaughn broke his cali HS records in assists.

 

[BizzyRipsta]

right now, i know that one guy who wants to play back-up pg to kidd is mark jackson. he said that he doesn't want to move from jersey to denver and that he wouldn't mind playing for the nets.

 

[BBallFan]

My worry about Mark Jackson is that he's clearly slowing down.

He wouldn't be able to push the ball, and is starting to become a liability on the defensive end, especially against any PG with athletic ability.

 

[BizzyRipsta]

Originally posted by BBallFan
My worry about Mark Jackson is that he's clearly slowing down.

He wouldn't be able to push the ball, and is starting to become a liability on the defensive end, especially against any PG with athletic ability.

true, and he might not be able to handle the nets's fast-pace plays.

 

[Cager]

I'd be more worried about finding a way to get Keith , the grossly overpaid white boy, off our team. The Nets have been exposed. JKidd knows he can't win with the current team. Winning the East again will be much more difficult and this team curretnly has no future possibility of beating the West. Jason will have a few teams with very legitimate NBA Championship possibilities. Whether he personally likes NYC area or not, Keith is the stumbling block to getting the talent that is needed to both keep Jason and have a chance to win it all

 

[BizzyRipsta]

Originally posted by Cager
I'd be more worried about finding a way to get Keith , the grossly overpaid white boy, off our team. The Nets have been exposed. JKidd knows he can't win with the current team. Winning the East again will be much more difficult and this team curretnly has no future possibility of beating the West. Jason will have a few teams with very legitimate NBA Championship possibilities. Whether he personally likes NYC area or not, Keith is the stumbling block to getting the talent that is needed to both keep Jason and have a chance to win it all

yeah, that's absolutely true. i don't know if they'll be able to get rid of keith, but let's hope for a miracle. maybe keith will "wake up" knowing that he's risking getting traded (oh wait, but he risked getting traded last year too).

 

[BBallFan]

I think you guys are being way too critical of Van Horn, is saying that we need to dump him from the team.

I think it's entirely possible that (even if he doesn't ever become much tougher), he can be a huge success if he actually embraces the idea of coming off of the bench.

Yea, he'd be one of the most overpaid bench players in the league, but it's possible that he can come off of the bench, and be an instant-offense go-to-guy when he's on the court.

Also, there's always the off-chance that he gets his head-together, and realizes that he's got a world of talent... and starts playing with any sort of passion.

 

[BizzyRipsta]

Originally posted by BBallFan
I think you guys are being way too critical of Van Horn, is saying that we need to dump him from the team.

no, i'm not necssarily saying dump him. he does have a role on the team and he did add to their success.

I think it's entirely possible that (even if he doesn't ever become much tougher), he can be a huge success if he actually embraces the idea of coming off of the bench.

i think that there's a big chance that that'll happen. :yes:

Also, there's always the off-chance that he gets his head-together, and realizes that he's got a world of talent... and starts playing with any sort of passion.

yup, just like i said above...

let's hope for a miracle. maybe keith will "wake up" knowing that he's risking getting traded

meaning, maybe he'll wake up and play the way he does when people are actually happy about him being on the team.

 

[BBallFan]

Here's a quick suggestion, that could possibly get Van Horn to play better:

Have Rod Thorn call Kenyon, and ask him to baby KVH the way that Jayson Williams used to baby him. Tell Van Horn every day how good he is, and how important he is... maybe even mutliple times a day.

 

[BizzyRipsta]

Originally posted by BBallFan
Here's a quick suggestion, that could possibly get Van Horn to play better:

Have Rod Thorn call Kenyon, and ask him to baby KVH the way that Jayson Williams used to baby him. Tell Van Horn every day how good he is, and how important he is... maybe even mutliple times a day.

lol...as long as kenyon doesn't end up like jayson williams, then i'm fine with that.

 

[BizzyRipsta]

check this out:

Scott said that only Jason Kidd and Kenyon Martin were assured of starting positions when the Eastern Conference champions reconvene at the Champion Center in October.

full article can be found here:
http://www.nj.com/nets/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1026551422151374.xml

 

[BBallFan]

I read that article too, and I think that regardless of if they change the starting lineup next year, I expect Jefferson to play more minutes than Kittles or Van Horn, and I expect Collins to play more minutes than McCollough.

 

[BizzyRipsta]

Originally posted by BBallFan
I read that article too, and I think that regardless of if they change the starting lineup next year, I expect Jefferson to play more minutes than Kittles or Van Horn, and I expect Collins to play more minutes than McCollough.

i agree...especially about the jefferson part. jefferson is a star in the making.

 

[BBallFan]

Jefferson can definately become a superstar. His shot is improving, and he has that ability to explode to the basket.

Though one thing I feel bad about, is that with Jefferson and Collins emerging as very solid players, it probably means that Aaron Williams and Lucious will have to see reduced minutes for next year.

 

[BizzyRipsta]

Originally posted by BBallFan
Jefferson can definately become a superstar. His shot is improving, and he has that ability to explode to the basket.

Though one thing I feel bad about, is that with Jefferson and Collins emerging as very solid players, it probably means that Aaron Williams and Lucious will have to see reduced minutes for next year.

so true...lucious has more of a chance for increased minutes, but, yeah, everyone's forgetting about aaron williams. i think that this is one of those "who knows" situations because you never know who's going to improve and shine (and start) come regular season. as long as the line-up and the number of minutes each player plays helps the nets succeed as a team (and makes kidd happy enough to stay), then i'm happy.

 

[BBallFan]

You really think that Lucious has a chance at getting more minutes next year?

Jefferson is going to be playing 2-guard at the summer leagues, in order to try to get used to playing that position offensively. That's leading me to believe that he's going to also get minutes backing up Kittles, even if Jefferson starts next year.

Also, I can't imagine Lucious playing alongside of Kittles when Kidd isn't the game, as I fully expect them to sign a backup PG.

The summer league is also the same reason that I think Williams will play less. They're going to give Collins minutes playing the 4 offensively, leading me to believe that he'll backup that position as well at times. Also, because Collins did emerge, I can't imagine them using Williams as a backup center anymore... making his minutes come as a 3rd string center and a 2nd string PF (with Collins cutting into his minutes there)

 

[BizzyRipsta]

you're right. i just meant that between lucious harris and aaron williams, lucious will be the one getting more minutes. it is sad though seeing both of not playing much, since both of them have potential.

 

[Cager]

Van Horn is not a bad NBA player and at $5-6M per year he might actually be desirable to us and a lot of teams. He is, though, one of the weaker max players. My concern is that he blocks the opportunity to get another stud which the Nets must have. Who could possibly want him? Only a team that has a bigger problem they want to dispose of.

L. Harris certainly makes Kittles expendable. The Nets have some good depth but we got to get another stud!

 

[BBallFan]

I think it'd be tough to get rid of Van Horn without taking a bad contract back.

Your'e right about Van Horn being a good player, but not a max-good player... and because of that, to get rid of him, we'd probably have to take someone else that's in a similar salary-situation as Van Horn...

and because of that, I think we're better off keeping Van Horn.

 

[Spurs4Life]

Jeff McInnis or Terry Porter maybe??