Official RMR Bulls vs Denver 7/23

What Went Wrong

Conditioning. I am convinced that we are wearing out.. especially Chandler/Curry. We gave up 32 points in the 4th quarter after giving up 34 in the 2 previous quarters combined.

I haven't seen one of these games.. but it just seems to be a pattern - we have given up big leads in both our losses. It's either losing focus or running out of energy.

I don't like the hard fouls from Bagaric. All it does it give the other team extra points.

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Has Tyson shown any kind of post up game, from what you have been able to see? Has he developed any moves?

Re: What Went Wrong

Originally posted by jmwebb
Conditioning. I am convinced that we are wearing out.. especially Chandler/Curry. We gave up 32 points in the 4th quarter after giving up 34 in the 2 previous quarters combined.

I haven't seen one of these games.. but it just seems to be a pattern - we have given up big leads in both our losses. It's either losing focus or running out of energy.

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Look at the minutes though. This is a classic example of Starters playing mostly in 1st and 3rd quarters and Bench playing mostly in 2nd and 4th quarters.

It was also another foul fest on both sides this time.

AND NO ONE IS FEEDING THE BIGs!!!!
Just like last year and unfortunately just like what JW used to do at Duke. Perimeter, perimeter, perimeter. This shows you how much we need Rose around to make sure we don't totally forget about them.

Without knowing for sure, I think you are right ABull. Look at the minutes. Chandler and Tyson played only 21 and 22 minutes. We don;t know who played in the 4th.

Originally posted by Songcycle
Without knowing for sure, I think you are right ABull. Look at the minutes. Chandler and Tyson played only 21 and 22 minutes. We don;t know who played in the 4th.

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Chandler AND Tyson combined for 43 minutes. huh? I knew what you meant.... Yeah they didn't play much today. Baxter played 22 minutes.

I'm sure they played some minutes in the 4th but not more than 3 or 4. On the otherhand Baxter looks made for this level type games. He is just dominating guys. I think it has a lot to do w/ his maturity/aggressive nature and size though.

I got JC's stats wrong earlier - He's a combined 9-28 in his last two games... or about 31% shooting. Ouch even worse....

Man I hope Baxter makes this team. If he doesn't it will be a crime. While I know Summer League doesn't mean that much, I'm still worried here. I think once they get into the groove of the regular season they will be fine. The first real test will be the preseason, ugh I'm dreading that. I also agree that Chandler needs to be more agressive, but part of it could be the lack of actually having the ball. 1/1? That's unacceptable from what should be a starting PF. Just my thoughts.

Where are all the Jay Williams is better than Dajuan Wagner people at????:laugh:

Originally posted by Fordy74
Where are all the Jay Williams is better than Dajuan Wagner people at????:laugh:

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They're all over the counrty. Including about 99.9% of intellegent basketball analysts and scouts.

Where are all the Jay Williams is better than Dajuan Wagner people at????

Ask again when Cleveland wins a game.

I believe Wagner is out with injury with a blister or some wussy injury

THIS HAS BEEN MY POINT!!

Originally posted by ABull
To be nice about it Denver did bring upwards of 8 guys who could/will make their roster.

JC 9-25 over the last 2 games. Harsh.

But JW isn't doing a damn thing so far to beat him out of starting. Averaging 6tpg is not going to impress anyone.

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THIS Bulls team is NEARLY our regular starters.. IF Denver and these other teams are NOT playing starters, the Bulls are in trouble....EARLY in the season.:no:

Its amazing to me.....

Originally posted by Fordy74
Where are all the Jay Williams is better than Dajuan Wagner people at????:laugh:

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....How some folks love to start bashing certain players, such as Jay Williams, the 4th game of the summer league!!! NOT even during the regular season....eh FORDY??? YOU are hilarious!!! LOL:laugh:

Just like last year and unfortunately just like what JW used to do at Duke. Perimeter, perimeter, perimeter. This shows you how much we need Rose around to make sure we don't totally forget about them.

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Yeah, but before we turn this into another "JC is better than JW" debate, I'll quickly add that in addition to poor shooting from JC the last 2 games....he did not go to the line even twice (1 FT attempt is not gonna get it done over the course of a SINGLE game....let alone 2).

To me JC lacks aggression.

JC doesn't take it to the hole hard. Last year he had a reason, recovering from his knee injury, but maybe he just doesn't have the penetrate mentality.

He is definitely going to need to collect more FTA.

Indeed, BCH. If its one thing I hate, its soft play from the guards. The difference between "very good" and "great" is oftentimes toughness of mind.....and a tough attitude on the court.

JC needs to toughen up.

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They're all over the counrty. Including about 99.9% of intellegent basketball analysts and scouts.

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Wow that is a lot of wrong people.

Originally posted by Fordy74


Wow that is a lot of wrong people.

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Please, tell us why they are wrong! We are listening

Originally posted by truebluefan


Please, tell us why they are wrong! We are listening

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Dajuan averaged 40 points a game against top notch NJ high school competition. Averaged over 20 PPG as a freshman in college playing out of position. Is a ton more explosive and talented than Williams. Williams wont be able to get away with all his fouling and all the other junk he got away with in college because college refs are on Duke and coach Krytscdjweskii nuts. Watch some Duke games on espn classic and watch how much Williams gets away with on defense. He is constantly bumping and hacking oppossing PG's. Its fair game now and we shall see how great Williams is out of his Duke uniform.