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OT: Morrison an NBA star? "You have got to be kidding!"

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From Skip Bayless of ESPN.com:

Some sample pieces of red meat for Morrison-lovers:

I don't know what made me cringe more: Having to watch those two geeks singing that takeoff of the "Gilligan's Island" theme in that over-and-over Applebee's commercial -- or hearing analyst upon analyst invoke the name of Larry Bird when gushing about Morrison.

Poor Adam. He'll never be able to live up to this buildup. He'll have a hard enough time becoming the Next Peja, let alone the Next Bird.
and

Larry Bird had as pure a shooting stroke of any man who ever bounced a basketball. Morrison is a good shooter, not a great one.

Bird, at 6-foot-9, had a virtually unblockable feet-on-the-floor, behind-the-head set shot that he could create with extraordinary step-back foot-and-hand quickness. Morrison, at a long-armed 6-8, shoots a jump shot. But it can be bothered by a long-armed defender because Morrison isn't exceptionally quick off the dribble and doesn't get especially high off the floor.

Though Bird wasn't a weight lifter, he had a big-boned stature and a nose for the ball -- a hard nose -- that made him one of the greatest below-the-rim rebounders (10.0 per game in his NBA career) this side of Dennis Rodman. Morrison's veins pop from weight-room dedication, but he doesn't play particularly strong and isn't much of a rebounder (5.5 rebounds per game).
Sounds right to me. But this is the capper:

If Redick lands in the right spot, he'll turn out to be the more valuable pro because Redick isn't as all-around good as Morrison. That's right, Redick won't be expected to carry the Bobcats or the Knicks back to the Promised Land, as Morrison might be. Redick's role will be to spot up and shoot weakside 3-pointers -- which Redick already can do as well as any NBA specialist.

Redick is a much better shooter than Morrison -- and if the Miami Heat had Redick right now, Detroit would be in trouble. Heck, if LeBron's Cleveland Cavaliers had him, Detroit would be saying, "Uh-oh."

But if Miami or Cleveland had rookie "superstar" Morrison, neither would be significantly better.
Say "no" to the 'stache. But the most damning criticism of all:

Would he be co-player of the year if LeBron or Carmelo were still in college? Dwight Howard? Sebastian Telfair? I could go on. But I leave that to Mr. Vitale.
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Interesting for sure but there is really nothing here that we haven't hashed and re-hashed already.

I do agree with their take on Redick though...if he lands with the right team I think he could be a deadly weapon from the outside.
I thought this was telling . . .

But Vitale and other college-loving analysts have gone madder than March when they go gaga over Morrison's NBA potential.
and this . . .

But for the record, I've talked to a couple of NBA general managers who think Morrison could be better than I think.
In other words, Bayless' opinion of Morrison is not shared by most analysts.
Skip Bayless is the Bay Area's John Canzano. That guy just constantly talks out his ***.

I don't know whether or not Morrison will turn out to be a great pro; Skip Bayless *definitely* doesn't know whether or not Morrison will turn out to be a great pro.

Stepping Razor
He's right about that Applebee's ad, though... it's on WAY TOO MUCH.

Ed O.
Ed O said:
He's right about that Applebee's ad, though... it's on WAY TOO MUCH.

Ed O.
Word.

Although it still hasn't reached the heights of ridiculousness of the NCAA tourney about 6-8 years ago when they launched the short-lived Amigo SUV, which had a commercial that played during every single timeout of all 63 games. I still have that goddamn "Amigo, Amigo..." jingle stuck in my head...

That was also the year of the Stanford-era Madsen gorilla celebration, a precursor to the more heralded Laker-era Madsen dance. Which made it a good tourney for me.

Except for the friggin Amigo.

Stepping Razor

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I pretty much agree with him. Morrison is not gonna be a savier, and has a good chance to burn out due to lofty expectations of him being the next "Great White Hope". Look at what happened to KVH. BTW, does anyone actually expect Morrison to surpass Keiths 19.7ppg, 6.6rpg, 1.7apg, 1spg rookie season? Personally, I dont see him being that good, especially as a rook.
Bayless isn't saying Morrison won't be a great pro. He's saying he may not be able to live up to the hype.

But in this day and age, who does?

Since we're lottery-bound anyway, I want Morrison. He is the best player (which even Skippy here does not refute).

PBF
Skip Bayless isn't someone who can be taken seriously. He's mostly saying things to be opposite of what other experts say. He'll often defend points of view that are illogical, and often times stupid BECAUSE it's against what he's argunig.

This is almost a seal of approval.
I do have a hard time with him comparing Bird's NBA stats to Morrison's career college rebounding stats (with a 35-second shot clock and games rarely above 85 points). Rebounding is largely based on how many shots are chucked up per game.
I admit I fell for this comparison at the start, but no where has anyone said he'll be the next larry bird, or that his game is exactly like larry bird or that he'll be as good as him.

It's that his game *resembles* larry bird. no where does anyone think he'll be the next bird. his shot resembles bird, and realistically thats it.

But he's a tall(ish) white guy who's pretty clutch. So obviously, the unavoidable poison the well comparisons to bird get made.

It's like how Gay is compared to Pippen. It's a little strange that no one seems to have a problem with that comparison being a little far-fetched.
Both comparisons are very off base. First off, Bird was one of the most versatile players ever. He got 25+ points, 10+ rebounds and 5+ assists over his entire career while shooting 50%. Adam is nothing like Larry, the only comparison is that both are white, slow, can shoot and work hard. Adam is much more of a Rip Hamilton than a Larry Legend.

Gay is not anything like Pippen either. Yes, both are versatile, but Pippen was much further his sophmore year than Gay is. Gay is more of a Gerald Wallace with a larger pool of untapped potential.
ThatBlazerGuy said:
Both comparisons are very off base. First off, Bird was one of the most versatile players ever. He got 25+ points, 10+ rebounds and 5+ assists over his entire career while shooting 50%. Adam is nothing like Larry, the only comparison is that both are white, slow, can shoot and work hard. Adam is much more of a Rip Hamilton than a Larry Legend.

Gay is not anything like Pippen either. Yes, both are versatile, but Pippen was much further his sophmore year than Gay is. Gay is more of a Gerald Wallace with a larger pool of untapped potential.
bingo.
Skip Bayless is an idiot and he has been for years...

I can't stand reading through his junk...

He's a gimmick writer who's sole purpose is to stir up controversy....I'd like to find another person who doesn't think Adam's game translate's well in the NBA...
zagsfan20 said:
Skip Bayless is an idiot and he has been for years...

I can't stand reading through his junk...

He's a gimmick writer who's sole purpose is to stir up controversy....I'd like to find another person who doesn't think Adam's game translate's well in the NBA...
Bayless = Canzano
Ed O said:
He's right about that Applebee's ad, though... it's on WAY TOO MUCH.

Ed O.
The commercial I hate is that one for Friday's, "that's the kung pow sauce for my shrimp". That commercial is so stupid.
Yega1979 said:
The commercial I hate is that one for Friday's, "that's the kung pow sauce for my shrimp". That commercial is so stupid.
It was funny the first five or six dozen times I saw it...
Ed O said:
He's right about that Applebee's ad, though... it's on WAY TOO MUCH.

Ed O.
We finally agree on something!
keep it comin Skip, Ammo loves to prove doubters wrong time and time again
Morrison, on the other hand, is a nearly complete offensive player. At 6-foot-8, he stands four inches taller and can create his own shot at any spot on the floor. He has a high release that is almost impossible to block, can post people up and either pivot toward the hoop or hit fall-away jumpers. At the college level, he can consistently slash to the hole and either finish with a dunk or utilize his terrific mid-range game.
"Adam Morrison is a 20-point-a-game scorer in the NBA for a long, long time," one Western scout said. "The son of a ***** can score on anyone."
"He's like (Larry) Bird. He just finds a way to get the ball in the basket," a Southwest Division scout added.
"I've spent the last four months on the road, at least six games a week. If (Morrison) isn't the MVP, then they must be hiding the guy who is better," a Western scout said. "Morrison can do 10 things Redick couldn't dream of."
When it comes to Redick vs. Morrison, I have never even understood the question.
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