Hockey is much easier than basketball. They normally only play back to back on Fridays and Sats for most of the season. Grad rates are high.
OT - NCAA hockey Finals tonite but
Talk about a long season. BC started play October 14, played about 40 games. Wonder what their grad rates are in hockey?? BTW, Wisconsin won 2-1 over the BC Eagles in Milwaukee.
Any thoughts about that length of a season? Do others play that many games and as long a season?
Eh?
Any thoughts about that length of a season? Do others play that many games and as long a season?
Eh?
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Mac539 said:Hockey is much easier than basketball. They normally only play back to back on Fridays and Sats for most of the season. Grad rates are high.
Yes, But college fball only plays 11 times a year (once a week), so is that even easier? The length of a hockey season must span from Oct 1 (pre-season practice) thru ???, if you are a top line team. If you can use the BC schedule as an example. On the other front, I'm sure the demographics for a hockey player has a different makeup as well.
It is not that anything is "easy." But the fact is the Hockey East teams have a chance to go to class. The farthest game is Providence to Vermont or Maine. BC in the ACC?. Boston to Florida on a Wed night?clark1 said:Yes, But college fball only plays 11 times a year (once a week), so is that even easier? The length of a hockey season must span from Oct 1 (pre-season practice) thru ???, if you are a top line team. If you can use the BC schedule as an example. On the other front, I'm sure the demographics for a hockey player has a different makeup as well.
D1 Men's Hockey had a graduation rate of 80%, according to the recently released NCAA stats. Lacrosse was at the top with an 89% rate. Football was near the bottom at 64%. Guess which sport was at the absolute bottom at 58%?
Mac's right about the travel. The UMass hockey team, for instance, left New England exactly twice all of last season, travelling all the way to NY both times. 26 times they never left the State. Not atypical, the various regions that play hockey don't intermingle very much until the post-season begins.
The typical D1 hockey player is from a white, uppermiddle class suburban family. Often attended a rich and prestigous Private School. Quite a bit different background than the background of many D1 basketball players. The money isn't great in Pro Hockey, and they have a Minor League System where nearly everyone must pass. You can step right in and make lots of cash in the NBA. I suspect these are the real issues causing the big gab in graduation rates.
Mac's right about the travel. The UMass hockey team, for instance, left New England exactly twice all of last season, travelling all the way to NY both times. 26 times they never left the State. Not atypical, the various regions that play hockey don't intermingle very much until the post-season begins.
The typical D1 hockey player is from a white, uppermiddle class suburban family. Often attended a rich and prestigous Private School. Quite a bit different background than the background of many D1 basketball players. The money isn't great in Pro Hockey, and they have a Minor League System where nearly everyone must pass. You can step right in and make lots of cash in the NBA. I suspect these are the real issues causing the big gab in graduation rates.
Maybe bball should emulate hockey. O no there goes ESPN! Still believe a season that spans that amount of time, Oct thru March, is comparable to bball no matter where the games are played. I'm sure the background for hockey players, since startup costs are high, is considerably different then the bball makeup. Their support system, plus lack of a big time profile (relatively, big time at the major hockey schools), lack of big time recruiting, notriety, works for having a higher grad rate. The lure of making the big time is not a make or break situation. Plus I would wonder if their is a Canadian influence. An interesting sidebar would be the graduation rate for Canadian recruits vs US kids???
I tacked on a little more to my original post at the same time you followed up. I never considered the Canadian factor, but now that you mention it, alot of Lacrosse Players hail from Canada too.
It never hurts to actually go to school, no matter what level its on. (Even high school.) If a kid can get someone else to pay for his college education, wonderful, just make the most of the opportunity. It's a great fall back to the athletic side, be it football, basketball, baseball or even hockey. Paying for "your" education with after tax dollars is a __________ (fill in your selected word).
Don't be fooled by the prep school thing. Most kids that go to Hockey East type schools also prep for a year as do basketball players with academic problems. ( True, the hockey players don't do it for academics) Few true freshmen anymore. And of course, prep schools scholarship these guys. This all seems odd from for someone from the Philly area, but high school hockey is very big in New England, and especially the Boston area. Schools like UNH still get many Canadians. But I think the Boston schools have a lot of home-grown talent.bdance said:D1 Men's Hockey had a graduation rate of 80%, according to the recently released NCAA stats. Lacrosse was at the top with an 89% rate. Football was near the bottom at 64%. Guess which sport was at the absolute bottom at 58%?
Mac's right about the travel. The UMass hockey team, for instance, left New England exactly twice all of last season, travelling all the way to NY both times. 26 times they never left the State. Not atypical, the various regions that play hockey don't intermingle very much until the post-season begins.
The typical D1 hockey player is from a white, uppermiddle class suburban family. Often attended a rich and prestigous Private School. Quite a bit different background than the background of many D1 basketball players. The money isn't great in Pro Hockey, and they have a Minor League System where nearly everyone must pass. You can step right in and make lots of cash in the NBA. I suspect these are the real issues causing the big gab in graduation rates.
I'm sure there are hockey hotbeds in the Boston/Mass/New England areas as well as Minnesota, etal areas. Perhaps there is something to be said to emulate any sport that can graduate a significantly higher %. Although most sports do graduate more than the average student population. Is it a time factor or money factor???
The Friday/Saturday night game scenario really helps kids from missing class. The downside is that it isn't particularly good for TV (e.g. Big Monday, Super Tuesday etc.) College Hockey is really big in New England, the Great lakes region, and New York State (surprisingly Syracuse and Buffalo don't field D1 hockey teams). Hockey doesn't have the nation appeal basketball does. I live in Tampa now and sure people are excited about the TB Lightning but parents and kids in Florida don't "hit the rinks" year round like they do up north. College basketball and hockey are different sports and the kids come from a different demographic. College hoops creates so much more revenue there are people who don't want to see that change even if changes would increase graduation rates
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