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I have read countless posts and points of view, saying this guy is a better player than this guy because he scores more points than him. This means absolute crap. What is the point of a guy scoring 25 points a game, when the guy he is defending is putting up 30 points a game. In this essence, perhaps scoring is perhaps overrated?? Please think about what I just said before slamming me on this point. Of course scoring is important, but the point I am making here is that individual players can be overated in the fact that they can score but cannot defend. Defence is 50% of the ball game.

It is not what the guy does with the ball that is of sole importance, it is what he does when he does not have the ball that is important.You do not need the ball in these areas.the art of posting up, guarding the passing lanes, blocking shots, running guys through screens, making the offensive guy go to his weak side, blocking out, setting good screens, communicating on offence and defence, giving confidence to other players, showing respect to other teammates and players. These are all the intangibles that make a good NBA player. What is the point of a guy just scoring , when he cannot do the little things that win and count in the NBA.

When watching an NBA game, I do not think that many people actually see the mistakes that NBA players make. How many passes get intercepted or go out of bounds. How many times do we see a defender playing too close to an offensive player with the ball allowing that player to easily wheel by him and score. How many times do we see no blocking out on rebounds, with guys just jumping over the top of the defensive rebounders, for the offensive rebound. How many 15 foot jump shots just clang off the rim, often when the offensive player has time to set himself up for the easy jump shot. How many free throws get missed with guys shooting 40 - 50%, from the free throw line. How many games are decided by one point, often the difference between a free throw made or missed.

The point I am making is that there is so much more to a player than the point he puts up, and the numbers he gets. He might put up 20/10/5 a game, but if the players that he is guarding are putting up the same numbers, what does that count for, if he cannot stop his opposing player. It is not what you do with the ball that counts, it is what you do when you do not have the ball that is crucial in the NBA.

And to Heatlunatic, you said that I needed to do my homework and blasted me with my post about Pat Riley?? I am sorry I forgot that your opinion is the only one that matters around here. I should have realised that you know everything there is to know about basketball.I should have realised that I should have checked with you before I posted that thread. Anytime you want to compare my basketball career with yours I would be more than happy to do so!
 

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Originally posted by KingsMan7
And some examples are?
Dirk
Marbury
AI
Nash
Ray Allen
 

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Originally posted by tenkev


Dirk
Marbury
AI
Nash
Ray Allen


The I'd agree :D. I just didn't want to have to correct him if he went on his half an hour tangent about Peja without knowing his game.
 

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And to Heatlunatic,you said that I needed to do my homework and blasted me with my post about Pat Riley??I am sorry I forgot that your opinion is the only one that matters around here.I should have realized that you know everything there is to know about basketball.
Its NOT my fault that ur opinion is WRONG!:no::laugh:

I got no beef with u,but if those are ur opinions,then u obviously DONT know a DAMN THING about the Heat!Once again,do ur HOMEWORK!:yes:

*** Instead of blasting someone else's opinion by merely saying the guy is wrong, and do his homework, why don't YOU back it up? I don't see where you are disputing him...perhaps you are the one who should be doing their homework! :rolleyes: — Ron ***
 

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kingof kings,

I agree to a certain extent that players are judged by what they do on a statsheet rather than what they do on a basketball court. My only criticism of your post is that you break it down to a one on one battle between two players determing who is better in a team game. At the skill level that most NBA players can exhibit on offense, a lot of times it comes down to a solid defensive effort within a team concept. When to double, when to rotate, when to challenge the dribble. These are all aspects of team defense. I agree though that one player oftentimes will light it up in offensive stats and take a break in his defensive responsibilities. The main reason I think the general public don't care enough about this is that they don't understand the game of basketball well enough to look at it without following the little, round ball around the court with their full attention.
 

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To Tenkev (or anyone else who agrees with him)

If Dirk and Nash are examples of this kind of overrating, then to what would you attribute the Mavs' success these past few years? Surely not Nick the Quick, who also possesses some of the attributes that were mentioned, namely poor communication, and a lack of confidence-giving and respect for teammates. Are you implying that the team is built around Finley?
 
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