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Additionally, the story has made Rolling Stone Magazine. A shell of what it once was, but a very sizable, national publication and has other details about the filing:


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Another gem:

"Minutes after hanging up the video call while at the Title IX office, court documents state, Balogh told the student that her sports team “‘wouldn't be at UVM’ without UVM's basketball team, implying that (she) should be grateful for everything Lamb and his team had done for her and her team.”"
 

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Honestly, this is the right case for her if the story is true. Her charging Lamb would involve an entire case on if he is guilty or not. The actual evidence may have issues holding up in court. This case isn't about that at all. Whether Lamb did anything or not has nothing to do with what the school did in reaction to her reports. They failed to protect her or assist her in her time of need.
 

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Honestly, this is the right case for her if the story is true. Her charging Lamb would involve an entire case on if he is guilty or not. The actual evidence may have issues holding up in court. This case isn't about that at all. Whether Lamb did anything or not has nothing to do with what the school did in reaction to her reports. They failed to protect her or assist her in her time of need.
Based on the stated facts from the alleged victim, a criminal case would be dismissed in about a nanosecond. The criminal justice path should have been pursued from day 1. It would have been better for everyone involved if it had.

An independent investigation WAS carried out and said UVM handled the situation appropriately.

If Balogh said what was stated in the lawsuit, she should obviously be fired immediately and there should be repercussions throughout the athletic department. It is likely Balogh disagrees with the statements attributed to her in lawsuit and the independent investigation either didn’t get this information or couldn’t verify that it actually happened or else Balogh would have been fired a long time ago.


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Based on the stated facts from the alleged victim, a criminal case would be dismissed in about a nanosecond. The criminal justice path should have been pursued from day 1. It would have been better for everyone involved if it had.

An independent investigation WAS carried out and said UVM handled the situation appropriately.

If Balogh said what was stated in the lawsuit, she should obviously be fired immediately and there should be repercussions throughout the athletic department. It is likely Balogh disagrees with the statements attributed to her in lawsuit and the independent investigation either didn’t get this information or couldn’t verify that it actually happened or else Balogh would have been fired a long time ago.


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Why would the case be dismissed in a nanosecond? Please educate me and perhaps some others.
 

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Welp, sounds like that independent investigation is going to become public - which could be a problem for UVM. Lot of dumb attorneys think those things are subject to some sort of peer privilege. It isn't. Some can be withheld if pure legal advice, but rarely drafted appropriate and once you use that as a defense, well, then it is in play.
 

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All she needs to do is walk down to the police station and file a criminal complaint. Then the league and teams will take action.

She isn't even suing him, she's suing the school.

It isn't the responsibility of the NBA or their teams to investigate every claim made about one of their players in actions that don't directly involve the player.
 

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All she needs to do is walk down to the police station and file a criminal complaint. Then the league and teams will take action.

She isn't even suing him, she's suing the school.

It isn't the responsibility of the NBA or their teams to investigate every claim made about one of their players in actions that don't directly involve the player.
It's still fair game to critique their lack of caring or follow-through on the matter. Even if he's not being sued directly, having one of your employees named in a civil suit that implicates them in rape and sexual assault, I would believe is something as an organization you would want to get to the bottom of and take seriously. These teams employ many former state or federal-level investigators who can do these sorts of things...and probably should have picked up on this information prior to his signing. Don't act like there weren't clues, and if we know anything about pro sports leagues, they'll investigate literally anything about a player...many stories of pro sports teams having people dig up something a player did in middle school to determine if they're "of good character. "

The NBA, and the franchises that employed Lamb just did a shitty job (likely because he was a marginal prospect that nobody sought to draft to begin with), so now they have to deal with articles like this. I'm not going to feel bad for them, or Lamb.
 

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All of her actions to date indicate that she has never wanted to make this about Lamb. For whatever reason, she has chosen the path of holding UVM to account, but not Lamb. That is her right.

But you can't expect the NBA or its teams to pursue the issue if Ware does not want to herself.

It isn't 100% clear from the article how the interview with Ware's attorney even came about. It seems more likely that it is SFGate muckraking than it is Ware's attorney looking to raise visibility.
 

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All of her actions to date indicate that she has never wanted to make this about Lamb. For whatever reason, she has chosen the path of holding UVM to account, but not Lamb. That is her right.

But you can't expect the NBA or its teams to pursue the issue if Ware does not want to herself.

It isn't 100% clear from the article how the interview with Ware's attorney even came about. It seems more likely that it is SFGate muckraking than it is Ware's attorney looking to raise visibility.
Yes. At the same time, media publication is well within its right to follow up on a story of a professional athlete in their market accused of rape to see if a team at least made some attempt to actually investigate anything regarding it when making a decision to employ or continue to employ the player, and perhaps shine a light on how maybe, regardless of any victim's aim, teams truly do not care about their players having credible rape allegations against them.

The allegations against Lamb are now nationally known. The Warriors keep employing the guy. As I said, their continued employment of the player is fair game to be scrutinized in a number of different ways. I don't think it's all that challenging to understand.
 

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All she needs to do is walk down to the police station and file a criminal complaint. Then the league and teams will take action.

She isn't even suing him, she's suing the school.

It isn't the responsibility of the NBA or their teams to investigate every claim made about one of their players in actions that don't directly involve the player.
Didn’t Kerr have a quote where he reached out to the NBA and they gave him to ok to sign Lamb?
 

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If I was ware’s lawyer, let him sign a contract. Then settle. You try to bring criminal charges/ get a DA or Prosecutor to indict/bring a civil claim already and you lose leverage and control.

Her attorney is smart. Suspect this is intentional release to increase pressure and leverage to get a better settlement from Lamb once he earns that contract and maybe even testimony against uvm. Would not surprise me. Get $250k from lamb, then go after deeper pockets uvm with cooperating witness who just has to tell the truth - I was never investigated. Sure uvm could impeach lamb, but that is a whole lot of risk.

That’s how you play 4d chess and get actual changes. So you win and future students win since I bet any settlement would require institutional changes.

That’s all so long as the suit heads to discovery and gets past a motion to dismiss.
 

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At this point, none of this is about the accused rape. It has been so long since it happened that I am sure that it would be extremely difficult to get a conviction or civil judgement against Lamb. I assume the evidence is weak and its a "he said she said" type case now, so I am sure that her lawyers advised against bringing charges directly against him. With little to no chance of their player being charged or sued, I am sure the entire thing is of little consequence to his current employer. Especially when he could say that something happened and it was consensual and she is only charging him as a money grab. For clarification: I am not saying that is true or what he would say, but its all he would have to say to make it about who is telling the truth.

What the case is about, is about how the school handled the allegations at the time, their failure to take her reports seriously, and supposedly the school telling her to be quiet and not rock the boat to hurt the school, player, or athletic program. It doesn't matter if Lamb is guilty or not. It doesn't matter what did or didn't happen with him or the rest of the team. What matters is the school didn't support her in her time of need. That is what the lawsuit is about.
 

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this just sucks, man. literally all of this could have been avoided with one single act. instead it's gone like, national national. kendall didn't even want to name the guy and now it's all over NBA media.

a lot of my best UVM sports memories feel tainted so that stings for me (hence why i've not watched a ton of this team over the last two years), but i'm more worried about how she's holding up.
 

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this just sucks, man. literally all of this could have been avoided with one single act. instead it's gone like, national national. kendall didn't even want to name the guy and now it's all over NBA media.

a lot of my best UVM sports memories feel tainted so that stings for me (hence why i've not watched a ton of this team over the last two years), but i'm more worried about how she's holding up.
Man I can not enjoying watching UVM in the tourney now against Marquette. One my favorite sporting events every year is watching the America East representative in the big dance but I really could not care less the last two years.

I understand this complaint isn't even in the same universe as to what the victim went through, but with the game now that's where my thoughts are at.
 
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