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I've been reading some of the other boards, and the caliber of discussion is horrendously bad on this and other topics. Sports fans can't be and won't ever be perfectly rational, but I couldn't get one thoughtful opinion anywhere on this issue. Hopefully this will change here. :)

I'm a big fan; Lin brought me back to the game, when I was on the brink of writing off the nba as a cesspool. Stern's corruption, donaghy's allegations, rape charges, lebron-gate, etc etc, just soured me on the league.

Linsanity was an absolute marvel to behold. His teammates were going crazy, and the garden was a nonstop party every time Lin stepped on the floor.

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This season, while not quite disastrous for lin, has been a major disappointment so far. As a Lin fan, I am obviously going to give him the benefit of the doubt: knee surgery, a coach who doesn't believe in him (sampson), and an obvious sharp decline in confidence, have all worked against him.

I still think this kid has the handles, the speed and the swagger, in the right situation, to be a very good PG. Obviously, I don't think HOU is the right situation for him.

What's your take.
 

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Perhaps you don't like the discussion on this topic because you inherently believe it should all be positive?

He's a severely overrated player by casual fans who reaped the benefits of his steep uprising by garnering a hefty contract from a team desperate for a player who draws eyeballs. I don't think his ceiling is much higher than Luke Ridnour.
 

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Luke Ridnour could never have done what Lin did last year. No way. Lin has some talent, and in the right situation - can leverage it. Houston is not the right situation though, and Lin's talents need that. He is very much a system player - in the right system he's a superstar. Ridnour? No system could make him that.
 

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Lin's in the bottom 5 of starting PGs in the NBA. I'd almost rather have Luke Ridnour, who isn't so turnover-prone and can actually hit a shot.
 

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Luke Ridnour could never have done what Lin did last year. No way. Lin has some talent, and in the right situation - can leverage it. Houston is not the right situation though, and Lin's talents need that. He is very much a system player - in the right system he's a superstar. Ridnour? No system could make him that.
There is no world in which Jeremy Lin would be a superstar in basketball. That's insulting to the real superstar PG's (CP3, D-Will, Rose, etc.).
 

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He will never be the shooter that a prime Mike Bibby or Luke Ridnour have been. I see his ceiling somewhere in the Jason Williams range.
 

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I didnt think he'd repeat what he achieved in New York but man he's not even repeating what he achieved in limited PT at GSW - he has been wretched

couple that with how good Felton has been playing in New York and for once it looks like the NYK front office got something right
 

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He's a better playmaker than Bibby and Ridnour though from what I've seen. Admittedly I haven't seem too much if him. From the few games ive witnesed, i see him as a solid third or fourth option.
 

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He's a better playmaker than Bibby and Ridnour though from what I've seen. Admittedly I haven't seem too much if him. From the few games ive witnesed, i see him as a solid third or fourth option.
He's a better playmaker than Ridnour, but not Bibby. Prime Mike Bibby was a very good creator with the basketball. Lin has good court vision, but he's not Ricky Rubio by a longshot.
 

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He isn't a spot up shooter. He can't catch and shoot. I think he can be effective with the ball in his hands, that was his role during Linsanity, and not so effective off the ball. When Melo came back he took the ball out of his hands and now Harden has the ball in Houston.
 

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Lin needs the ball in his hands and needs to be more assertive, even with Harden next to him. Linsanity was very real and no matter how you want to slice the lack of scouting report, Lin has very high potential. I like the Bibby comparison in terms of potential and impact, their game are different but with the right work ethic and improvement, I can see him make an all star or two.

He is not a #1 option and will most likely need to be playing with a dominant big to unleash his full potential. That way, he can have the ball in his hands enough and he is good at making plays so he will find the big enough.
 

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Lin's and Harden's games both suffer greatly because they play the majority of their minutes with Omer Asik as their primary pick-and-roll partner. They both take turns setting him up beautifully only to see him brick lay-ups and fumble the ball out-of-bounds. Deezy makes a good point. It would be nice to see that team pick up a great pick-and-roll/pick-and-pop big to go with their current core. Asik is no more than a defensive stopper/rebounder at this stage of his career. He's got some of the worse hands in the league.
 

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the rockets are a team that could really use Pau but I dont see the pieces in place to make something work
 

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the rockets are a team that could really use Pau but I dont see the pieces in place to make something work
I think a guy like Paul Millsap would ever do them some good. Pau would be perfect, though. That would even be a good destination for Boozer once he's amnestied.
 

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He isn't a spot up shooter. He can't catch and shoot. I think he can be effective with the ball in his hands, that was his role during Linsanity, and not so effective off the ball. When Melo came back he took the ball out of his hands and now Harden has the ball in Houston.
Where would you rate him on the Norris Cole scale?
 

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the rockets are a team that could really use Pau but I dont see the pieces in place to make something work
They can give us Scola, Martin and Dragic?
 

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Thread officially derailed.
 
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