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Just to be clear, Hayman Hall (now the TruMark Center) which houses Gola and the Kirk Pool did not open in 1998. It opened in the early '70s and did not include a basketball arena. At the time all of the Big 5 schools were national powers and played most of their home games at Penn's Palestra. LaSalle planned to construct its own on campus venue rather than share the Palestra. The other Big 5 schools talked them out of it fearing that it would harm the Big 5. The result was Hayman which was being built when I graduated in '71. Not long after Nova and Temple joined new conferences and began to de-emphasize the local rivalries. Rollie Massimino at nova would only agree to 2 Big 5 games a year. La Salle was left holding the bag since they were the only school without any sort of on campus facility. They played at the old Convention center during the Simmons years and drew well. When that closed they moved to the old Spectrum. One of the conditions in joining the A10 was to have an on campus venue as i understand it. In order to preserve the space where
 

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Sorry, fat fingers posted before I was done. The current "attic" is used for multiple sports as well as practice and recreation. The current long range plan includes a major renovation and/or a new arena but there are many other issues that need to dealt with before that happens.
 

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Saw the following on the ODU board. Though it was interesting that a former CUSA member now in the AAC compared them to UConn's choice.

monarx' pid='17320940' dateline='1615588270 said:
40smokingcannon' pid='17320692' dateline='1615584437 said:
You guys remind me a lot of UConn fans. Long time basketball fans learning where football fits into your schools athletic culture. UConn had been in the Big East and felt left behind after realignment had happened because of their success and prestige in the BE, not to mention close basketball rivalries they lost. The American to them was a step down (and was). They made the decision to embrace their basketball culture and went back to the BE. Contrary to belief I don't think their football will suffer as an independent long term.

ODU fans (I think) still embrace the basketball heritage and legacy and cherish their old rivals. Perhaps ODU could follow the lead of UConn and put basketball and the olympics in the A10 (if there is an opening) and go independent in football. I don't think it would hurt your football too much. You could schedule Va Tech, Liberty, ECU, Virginia, App At, Charlotte UConn, UMass, Norfolk At, William and Mary, Nc State, Duke, Wake, JMU, Elon, UNC, etc. Get a pay game every year too. Get BYU, South Carolina, Navy Temple, Maryland, etc.

To me, this seems better for ODU and it's fanbase than staying in CUSA or going to the Sun Belt or another conference made up of these teams.

Hampton Roads is an important recruiting area so I don't think you'd have trouble getting home games. Your potential football schedule could look like:

UConn
Liberty
JMU
Va Tech
Charlotte
App State
ECU
Marshall
BYU
West Virginia
Duke
UMass

There's enough money in that schedule to offset travel.

Couple that with basketball playing George Mason, Davidson, GW, VCU, etc. I bet your fans would come back in huge numbers.

It's difficult feeling like your teams are in purgatory. I felt that way with ECU in CUSA 2.0 (no offense) and love being in the AAC even though football and basketball hasn't been kind to us. It was a great move for us and I think ODU would benefit from making a bold move.

Good luck ODU.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Good analysis. I think comparison to UConn is accurate, only obviously at a different level. Our Big East is the A10. I think we'd do well in the AAC eventually too, but the A10/Indy solution seems much more realistic. Id embrace it whole heartedly.
 

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I know you think that more teams (with proper OOC scheduling) is the way to go.
I'm still not sure.
Big 12 with 10 teams got 7 invites and are 6-1.
ACC with 16 teams got 7 invites and are 2-5.
Maybe it's all in the scheduling. 7 invites is...well, 7 invites. But you have to spit it up with more teams.
 

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NCAA Tournament records by conference are luck of the draw, though.

Stats nerd icon Billy Beane used to say "My shit doesn't work in the playoffs," which he meant to mean "I'm finding tiny advantages that add up over 162 games to more wins. But in a Best of 5 series, the sample size is so small, that my tiny advantage is meaningless." And NCAA Tournament games are "Best of One."

St. Bona under Mark Schmidt, last 7 years: 139-75 (.649), 2 NCAA bids (1-2 record)
Loyola under Porter Moser, last 7 years: 155-79 (.662), 2 NCAA bids (5-1 record)

(Fun fact: Steve Watson was the AD who hired.... BOTH Schmidt and Moser!). Loyola is basically the average of Dayton and Bona over the last 7 years. Which would be good for us. Belmont is a poor man's Davidson. Also good for us.

I actually don't think that "Moar is better!" I think that consistency is what we want. And programs like Loyola and Belmont would make us more consistent and reduces the significance of our bottom teams' bad records. Adds Chicago and Nashville to our markets for TV. And I think it sends a message that "Hey, the A-10 isn't fucking around. Loyola had two big runs, and the A-10 invited them. They're CLEARLY a Top 8 conference."
 
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