id say it was a decent pick up.
Ronald "Flip" Murray
I remember him coming out of nowhere & scoring 20+ pts in 9 out of Seattle's 1st 10 games in 2003 when he was filling in for the injured Ray Allen. He also had a game-winner in that season. What do you guys think of him? Do Cavs fans think he's a good backup combo guard when Hughes comes back? I think he's pretty good in the clutch too as he demonstrated yersterday afternoon when he lit up the Lakers in the 4th.
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They got him for Mike Wilks and cash. That's a really ****ing good deal.
He's making himself a lot of money. I hope the Cavs re-sign him though to like the MLE. As injury prone as Hughes is, they kind of need him around. Plus I think Hughes/Bron/Murray can play at the same time and be more effective than when Snow/Jones are out there with those two.
He's making himself a lot of money. I hope the Cavs re-sign him though to like the MLE. As injury prone as Hughes is, they kind of need him around. Plus I think Hughes/Bron/Murray can play at the same time and be more effective than when Snow/Jones are out there with those two.
futuristxen said:They got him for Mike Wilks and cash. That's a really ****ing good deal.
He's making himself a lot of money. I hope the Cavs re-sign him though to like the MLE. As injury prone as Hughes is, they kind of need him around. Plus I think Hughes/Bron/Murray can play at the same time and be more effective than when Snow/Jones are out there with those two.
Yeh that was a pretty good move, man tough luck for the cavs, we still didn't see a healthy Combo of Huges/Lebron for the whole season, i would definitley think they could've got 50+ wins.
flip is that dude, he's playing good for cleveland since arriving, i liked him since him playin up in philly before the A, he can flat out score.
I am glad to see Flip getting quality minutes playing his natural position - shooting guard. The Sonics tried to convert him into a point guard, and it was unfair to Flip.
He's kind of Lebron-look-alike. Most of the time I thought he was Lebron on the court.
They don't look anything alike.master8492 said:He's kind of Lebron-look-alike. Most of the time I thought he was Lebron on the court.
i dont think you want to start him or have him on the floor at the end of the game, just doesnt always make good decisions , there was a reason seattle let him go.
The both are dark skinned and wear headbands. I think that's where the confusion lies.neoxsupreme said:They don't look anything alike.
He's actually made very good decisions since he's been on the Cavaliers. He does at times make questionable shooting decisions, but normally he's pretty sound. Since he really doesn't play the point for Cleveland he really is limited in the number of decisions that he has to make.rainman said:i dont think you want to start him or have him on the floor at the end of the game, just doesnt always make good decisions , there was a reason seattle let him go.
hes perfect for that 3rd option scoring role that the cavs need when Lebron isnt scoring.
i always thought flip had tons of game but never in the right situation. the cavs are presenting him with a nice opportunity.
i always thought flip had tons of game but never in the right situation. the cavs are presenting him with a nice opportunity.
yeh but i wondering how u fail to recognize the 5inch 50lb differencefuturistxen said:The both are dark skinned and wear headbands. I think that's where the confusion lies.
yea, i agree. I've seen some Cavs games recently and I thought that was Lebron. Some of Flip's moves are similar to Lebron's.master8492 said:He's kind of Lebron-look-alike. Most of the time I thought he was Lebron on the court.
Flip actually requested to the coach for him to play point. He said he could. It's been said in anothe Clevelanbd Flip thread- this is the honeymoon time. Soon his role will be greatly reduced by Hughes and Jackson, and those who saw him play with Seattle know he needs a lot of minutes to be effective.G-Force said:I am glad to see Flip getting quality minutes playing his natural position - shooting guard. The Sonics tried to convert him into a point guard, and it was unfair to Flip.
Um...Jackson? Luke? Luke Jackson?WTChan said:Flip actually requested to the coach for him to play point. He said he could. It's been said in anothe Clevelanbd Flip thread- this is the honeymoon time. Soon his role will be greatly reduced by Hughes and Jackson, and those who saw him play with Seattle know he needs a lot of minutes to be effective.
Sorry but Luke Jackson will be lucky if he can get Sasha Pavlovic's minutes. He's not a Mike Brown favorite. Look at the minutes Flip Murray is playing. It's second only to Lebron. Even when Hughes comes back, there's plenty of minutes to be found in the backcourt. Who would you rather be playing--Flip or Damon Jones? Not a hard problem. Plus you can cut Lebron's minutes under 40 if you keep Flip around and play him 30.
If Brown can juggle Donyell Marshall/Drew Gooden/and Verejao in the two frontcourt spots. I'm sure he can juggle Hughes, Lebron, and Flip between the 3 other positions. It helps that Lebron can play all 3 spots, and Hughes can play 2 as can Flip.
Speaking of Luke Jackson, what the hell is going on with that guy? Is he playing crappy or in the dog house or what?futuristxen said:Um...Jackson? Luke? Luke Jackson?
Sorry but Luke Jackson will be lucky if he can get Sasha Pavlovic's minutes. He's not a Mike Brown favorite. Look at the minutes Flip Murray is playing. It's second only to Lebron. Even when Hughes comes back, there's plenty of minutes to be found in the backcourt. Who would you rather be playing--Flip or Damon Jones? Not a hard problem. Plus you can cut Lebron's minutes under 40 if you keep Flip around and play him 30.
If Brown can juggle Donyell Marshall/Drew Gooden/and Verejao in the two frontcourt spots. I'm sure he can juggle Hughes, Lebron, and Flip between the 3 other positions. It helps that Lebron can play all 3 spots, and Hughes can play 2 as can Flip.
I need some expert advice Future!
That comment wasn't made by Futuristxennaibsel said:yeh but i wondering how u fail to recognize the 5inch 50lb difference
master8492 said:He's kind of Lebron-look-alike. Most of the time I thought he was Lebron on the court.
Kind of neither. He was playing relatively well when he got a shot, but tends to be a bit timid on the offensive end. He'll make some nice plays and then just refuses to take some wide open shots that he gets. It's actually pretty strange but whether the player is hitting or not, we need whomever is playing the 2 to be aggressive and to take the wide open shots that are given to them within the offense. Thats why Flip has worked out so well, even the nights that he's been 2-9 he's really helped the team.compsciguy78 said:Speaking of Luke Jackson, what the hell is going on with that guy? Is he playing crappy or in the dog house or what?
I need some expert advice Future!
Not to mention, Brown just seems to get into moods where he will play Luke or Sasha etc. They really don't seem all that rational but he does what he does. Lukes injury hasn't helped much either.
Flip is one of the biggest ballhogs in the NBA, and an underrated one at that....
Underrated ballhogs -
Flip Murray
Juwan Howard
Chris Webber
Big Z
Underrated ballhogs -
Flip Murray
Juwan Howard
Chris Webber
Big Z
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