[SFspidur]

I really like the recent formatting cleanups on the chart and I don't want to mess with stuff too much, but I'm not sure the best way to reflect guys coming back for an extra year and their lack of impact on scholarship limits.

Right now the boxes are set up with just 13 slots, but the returning fifth-year guys shouldn't count toward that. Should those guys be listed below everybody else as we do with other "extra" players? Or should we add more boxes at the bottom as needed to reflect allowed players or open slots beyond the usual 13?

 

[Bill Russell]

I really like the recent formatting cleanups on the chart and I don't want to mess with stuff too much, but I'm not sure the best way to reflect guys coming back for an extra year and their lack of impact on scholarship limits.

Right now the boxes are set up with just 13 slots, but the returning fifth-year guys shouldn't count toward that. Should those guys be listed below everybody else as we do with other "extra" players? Or should we add more boxes at the bottom as needed to reflect allowed players or open slots beyond the usual 13?

I have been struggling with the best way to reflect this, so we're on the same page. I'm not sure what to do with this.

 

[Hawkamaniac]

I also wonder if guys who enter the transfer portal should automatically be classified as out of the program and stricken from later years. Sometimes players really are just testing the waters and end up coming back, like SJU's Lorenzo Edwards did in 2019. Perhaps shade them in another color until their situation is clarified?

 

[Bill Russell]

I also wonder if guys who enter the transfer portal should automatically be classified as out of the program and stricken from later years. Sometimes players really are just testing the waters and end up coming back, like SJU's Lorenzo Edwards did in 2019. Perhaps shade them in another color until their situation is clarified?

In the overwhelming majority of cases, guys who enter the portal wind up leaving their current school. I find it easier to just strike them once they enter the portal, and then to go back and update the few who would actually return after opening themselves up to the portal cesspool.

Also, I pushed down the scholarship borders for Duquesne and Rhode Island since both have a returning player who will not count against the NCAA scholarship limit. Does that look better, SFspidur?

 

[SFspidur]

Yeah, I like that. I would even be in favor of pushing them down to include open slots, as it gives a sense of which teams may still be hunting for guys. Like the Spiders still have two open slots for 2021 even though we have 13 on board at the moment, so it seems reasonable for the chart to reflect that.

 

[Bill Russell]

Yeah, I like that. I would even be in favor of pushing them down to include open slots, as it gives a sense of which teams may still be hunting for guys. Like the Spiders still have two open slots for 2021 even though we have 13 on board at the moment, so it seems reasonable for the chart to reflect that.

Updated.

 

[SFspidur]

I think that looks great...thanks for doing such a great job with the spreadsheet.

 

[MasonFanatic]

I updated Mason based on current information. It gets a little silly after 2022-23 with the possible COVID extra years, but oh well.

 

[Bill Russell]

I updated Mason based on current information. It gets a little silly after 2022-23 with the possible COVID extra years, but oh well.

Thanks. To avoid confusion, I haven't been presuming any returning player will take his extra year of eligibility. Once they do, I add them with the "#" to indicate them not counting toward the scholarship limit.

 

[Hawkamaniac]

Bill Russell/Treebeard, I don't know how you will deal with this one but the Hawks got a commitment from Rasheer Fleming out of Camden High yesterday. He's our fourteenth scholarship player for 2022 at the moment so someone probably won't be here a year from now. Maybe after next season Hall will go pro, maybe Obinna won't take advantage of the extra season of eligibility, maybe Foster's time away from basketball will become a "retirement" or someone else will transfer out. Who knows. But, I'll let you straighten it out for the moment tree-wise! Perhaps put Obinna in that slate-blue color?

 

[Hawkamaniac]

The Hawks updated their roster within the last couple of days and Greg Foster, Jr. is not on it. So, I am making the executive decision to remove him.

 

[Hawkamaniac]

FYI to whomever updated SJU to remove Obinna...he has already confirmed that he is coming back next season.

 

[Bill Russell]

FYI to whomever updated SJU to remove Obinna...he has already confirmed that he is coming back next season.

That was me. Thank you for the update. Just to keep things clear, I've been waiting to see who confirms their extra year(s). I hadn't seen Obinna's announcment yet. Thanks for the info.

 

[urmite]

I am surprised that Fred Hatch will return for 2023-2024 and won't count against the 13 limit...

 

[SFspidur]

Somebody moved Matt Grace over to next season's listing, but he hasn't declared yet, so I undid it.

 

[Billiken]

Updated SLU. 23-24 season we could have 3 on 5th year. Gibson Jimerson had a redshirt, hence he could have his 5th season in 24-25. Will they all stay? Stay tuned.

 

[Bill Russell]

Updated SLU. 23-24 season we could have 3 on 5th year. Gibson Jimerson had a redshirt, hence he could have his 5th season in 24-25. Will they all stay? Stay tuned.

Thanks. Yeah. I’ve been factoring medical redshirts into the equation, but not extra COVID eligibility until the player announces it.