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At #31
Casey Jacobsen
At #44
Corsley Edwards
Why Casey Jakes ?
May have the most range on his shot then anyone in the draft and saw how much mopre effective he was at Standford with the dominating Jarron and Jason Collins.
Granted he was not as "big" this year - but hey no Jarron and no Jason ( who I thought was one of the few Nets big men who played Shaq hard in the finals - ballsy kid )
So with two potential dominating studs in Tyson and Eddy subbing in for the Collins brothers you may get an idea at how effective a pure shooter ( perhaps the purest shooter in the draft ) like Casey Jakes could be gold on a team like ours.
Can't create off the dribble ? Who cares when you have the creators like Rose, Jamal and Jay and the big men grinding away in Eddy and Tyson. Casey doesnt need to . He just needs to drain them when open which he has shown ample evidence at the college level that he can do .
Casey Jakes is taken in a reserve role but is part of a larger trade occurring which ships Fizer and Hassell for PJ Brown - Hassells spot opening up for Casey Jakes that ultimately after next year soaks up Fred and Trent's minutes combined.
Why Corsley Edwards ?
Because he has a cool sounding name :grinning:
I admit I have not seen him play a lick but from all the reading up I have been able to muster I like him as he comes advertised as a strong physical banger /rebounder that has a wide body and who can fill the lane. So picking up such a role rebounder/defender that had a very good Chi predraft camp and comes advertised at 6'9 and 285 is enticing . A bruiser/enforcer type against second teams.
Wasabi!
At #31
Casey Jacobsen
At #44
Corsley Edwards
Why Casey Jakes ?
May have the most range on his shot then anyone in the draft and saw how much mopre effective he was at Standford with the dominating Jarron and Jason Collins.
Granted he was not as "big" this year - but hey no Jarron and no Jason ( who I thought was one of the few Nets big men who played Shaq hard in the finals - ballsy kid )
So with two potential dominating studs in Tyson and Eddy subbing in for the Collins brothers you may get an idea at how effective a pure shooter ( perhaps the purest shooter in the draft ) like Casey Jakes could be gold on a team like ours.
Can't create off the dribble ? Who cares when you have the creators like Rose, Jamal and Jay and the big men grinding away in Eddy and Tyson. Casey doesnt need to . He just needs to drain them when open which he has shown ample evidence at the college level that he can do .
Casey Jakes is taken in a reserve role but is part of a larger trade occurring which ships Fizer and Hassell for PJ Brown - Hassells spot opening up for Casey Jakes that ultimately after next year soaks up Fred and Trent's minutes combined.
Why Corsley Edwards ?
Because he has a cool sounding name :grinning:
I admit I have not seen him play a lick but from all the reading up I have been able to muster I like him as he comes advertised as a strong physical banger /rebounder that has a wide body and who can fill the lane. So picking up such a role rebounder/defender that had a very good Chi predraft camp and comes advertised at 6'9 and 285 is enticing . A bruiser/enforcer type against second teams.
2nd rounders
Ryan H. from N.D
Preston Shumpert from Syracuse......
Why?
Get scoring off the bench and a banger/scorer. I really like Juan Dixon too but Schumpert is bigger. Dixon will be a steal I beleive for whoever drafts him. An A.I. clone? Look at the similarities, same style, aggresive and small, and Dixon has a better J.
Ryan H. from N.D
Preston Shumpert from Syracuse......
Why?
Get scoring off the bench and a banger/scorer. I really like Juan Dixon too but Schumpert is bigger. Dixon will be a steal I beleive for whoever drafts him. An A.I. clone? Look at the similarities, same style, aggresive and small, and Dixon has a better J.
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31=humphreys or prince if prince is there
44-not sure. Dont really know if he will make the team. BC said we need a veteran up front and in the backcourt and add the two picks, #2 and #31 im not so sure we will keep the #44 pick.
44-not sure. Dont really know if he will make the team. BC said we need a veteran up front and in the backcourt and add the two picks, #2 and #31 im not so sure we will keep the #44 pick.
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I like Robert Archibald. He's the type of talent we can use as our essential PF/C backup, in case we aren't able to get the FA pickups we want. If he shows up strong to mini-camps, then maybe we can save a little more cap space for the future... a 4 year deal with Scott Williams will take SOME of Chandler/Curry's extension salary...
As for Corsley Edwards, he's a good guy to have. He did really well in his stint with the USBL, averaging 18.4 pts, 7.7 boards, a steal and a block. If Edwards turns out to be a player that warrants minutes off the bench, then Fizer will definitely be on the trade block around Christmas.
Tayshaun Prince is a good SF backup, for when ERob gets injured again. BC said this about Prince in his web chat with nba.com... "Tayshaun Prince, from Kentucky. I like him. And he would kind of fit in with what we do, offensively that is. "
Prince is a jump shooter that can leap to the basket but is too slight to overpower anyone. He's a good talent, though, and I think his body is shaped to be a good defender, while his height allows him to log some minutes at PF.
Williams/Crawford
Hassell/Crawford/Hoiberg
Rose/ERob/Prince
Chandler/Fizer
Curry/Archibald/Bagaric
The best possible situation is if ERob shows up next year and plays significant minutes at SF, showing an ability to at least play average defense and score with his athleticism and a hopefully developed jumper.
Then, we draft Edwards instead of Prince, and we have:
Williams/Crawford/Rose
Hassell/Crawford/Hoiberg
Rose/ERob
Chandler/Fizer/Edwards
Curry/Archibald/Bagaric
And if Edwards shows up too, then Fizer becomes more expendable. And I think that some teams will be interested in getting him.
Teams that might be interested in Fizer:
Seattle, Lakers, Charlotte, Orlando, Miami, Houston, and Phoenix.
That's if all goes well. And I read somewhere that someone thought Bagaric was actually playing as a late first-rounder's expectations... wow. That's great. Our team becomes so deep that we don't even know what to do. As long as we stay healthy as well...
..this team actually COULD be a playoff team next year.
Man, if you know me, you know I like to post LONG. I'll try to cut it down from now on.
As for Corsley Edwards, he's a good guy to have. He did really well in his stint with the USBL, averaging 18.4 pts, 7.7 boards, a steal and a block. If Edwards turns out to be a player that warrants minutes off the bench, then Fizer will definitely be on the trade block around Christmas.
Tayshaun Prince is a good SF backup, for when ERob gets injured again. BC said this about Prince in his web chat with nba.com... "Tayshaun Prince, from Kentucky. I like him. And he would kind of fit in with what we do, offensively that is. "
Prince is a jump shooter that can leap to the basket but is too slight to overpower anyone. He's a good talent, though, and I think his body is shaped to be a good defender, while his height allows him to log some minutes at PF.
Williams/Crawford
Hassell/Crawford/Hoiberg
Rose/ERob/Prince
Chandler/Fizer
Curry/Archibald/Bagaric
The best possible situation is if ERob shows up next year and plays significant minutes at SF, showing an ability to at least play average defense and score with his athleticism and a hopefully developed jumper.
Then, we draft Edwards instead of Prince, and we have:
Williams/Crawford/Rose
Hassell/Crawford/Hoiberg
Rose/ERob
Chandler/Fizer/Edwards
Curry/Archibald/Bagaric
And if Edwards shows up too, then Fizer becomes more expendable. And I think that some teams will be interested in getting him.
Teams that might be interested in Fizer:
Seattle, Lakers, Charlotte, Orlando, Miami, Houston, and Phoenix.
That's if all goes well. And I read somewhere that someone thought Bagaric was actually playing as a late first-rounder's expectations... wow. That's great. Our team becomes so deep that we don't even know what to do. As long as we stay healthy as well...
..this team actually COULD be a playoff team next year.
Man, if you know me, you know I like to post LONG. I'll try to cut it down from now on.
Here is my list if they are avialible in the seconds durning our picks......
Chris Jeffires
T. Price
lazaros papadopoulos
Vincent Yarbrough
Elvin Mims
Faith Soalk
Casey Jacobson
Predrag Savovic
Tito Maddex
Dan Gadzuric
Sam Clancy
And thats probably it some the guys on this list I seen play and some I haven't seen but heard of them that make me interest want them to get draft in one of our second rounds.
Chris Jeffires
T. Price
lazaros papadopoulos
Vincent Yarbrough
Elvin Mims
Faith Soalk
Casey Jacobson
Predrag Savovic
Tito Maddex
Dan Gadzuric
Sam Clancy
And thats probably it some the guys on this list I seen play and some I haven't seen but heard of them that make me interest want them to get draft in one of our second rounds.
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your right he could. But i view him as a brandon haywood type of player. Not for his height! But the fact he has the body and the talent to be very good. He just needs a fire lit under him! Someone who can motivate him every night. I almost included him in my list. If he is there at 44 i think that would be over kill if we got humphrey or prince at 31. So i will pass on him
Just got this from the draft page on NBA.com
FIVE MOST RECENT SECOND ROUND PICKS WHO ARE NOW NBA STARTERS
1. Jarron Collins (No. 53, 2001)
2. Todd MacCulloch (No. 47, 1999)
3. Rashard Lewis (No. 32, 1998)
4. Cuttino Mobley (No. 41, 1998)
5. Alvin Williams (No. 48, 1997)
That ain't much.
FIVE MOST RECENT SECOND ROUND PICKS WHO ARE NOW NBA STARTERS
1. Jarron Collins (No. 53, 2001)
2. Todd MacCulloch (No. 47, 1999)
3. Rashard Lewis (No. 32, 1998)
4. Cuttino Mobley (No. 41, 1998)
5. Alvin Williams (No. 48, 1997)
That ain't much.
I also had those guys in mind Sicky, but I just copied and pasted from NBA.com draft page. The real point ifrom my standpoint is to not get too carried away with seconds rounders, not to mentions picks in the 20's and maybe even a little higher. I am actually very surprised GS doesn't hold Arenas in higher esteem.
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Assuming no trades, I'd go with Chris Jeffries at #31 (but I'd be happy w/ about any logical SF pick available) and maybe take a flyer on Lenny Cooke at #44 and see if he develops? Jamal Sampson might be an option at #31 if he falls, but I'd rather get a SF given Erob's foot problems and also given that we already have 1-2 young talents in development at every other position. I could see Krause picking Papadopoulos or Christoffersen at #44, but I don't get very excited about it. If we're not trading anybody, then all I want down there is one veteran through free-agency such as Scott Williams. He seems like a great fit for the front line.
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pduh, yes, that's true if you don't count Minnesota's forfeited 1st round pick as a pick (which makes sense).
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Well, I guess I mis-spoke. It looks like ESPN has the Bulls ahead of the Warriors in the 2nd round (so the Bulls would actually have the #29 selection in that case). NBADraft.net has the Warriors ahead of the Bulls in the 2nd round. I have no idea who is right, but will gladly move us up ahead of the Warriors (not that they'll draft a SF in the 2nd round anyway).
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Tell us more about him if you want to
He is a 6'10" SF/PF from Memphis. I will compare him to Jerome Williams. Very good defender and rebounder and has the athleticism to defend the quicker SF. Not really a scorer. Unfortunately he is hurt and can't work out for teams. I think he and Wagner share the same agent. His number this year
Kelly Wise 6'10" 217lb
27G 12.3PPG 11.0RPG 1.3APG 39blocks 26steals 59.2FG% 56.8%FT/% almost 4 FTAs per game
Jay Will and no more...
...rookies! On another thread, someone hinted at the idea of West and Krause being what was described as..."tight?" IF that is the case, I would be in favor of "packaging" second round picks /bench players from the bulls, for stromile swift. we are young enough and stromile could fit in quite nicely as a reserve.:yes:
...rookies! On another thread, someone hinted at the idea of West and Krause being what was described as..."tight?" IF that is the case, I would be in favor of "packaging" second round picks /bench players from the bulls, for stromile swift. we are young enough and stromile could fit in quite nicely as a reserve.:yes:
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That's recent ones.
I'd say Nick Van Exel is okay, and he was starting a few months ago.
Eric Snow, PJ Brown, Antonio Davis, and Jeff McInnis are pretty good starters.
Besides, Rashard and Cat Mobley are excellent players, both capable of 20+ ppg and have other strong talents.
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