I often disagree with you, but this time I can't.SaintlySaint said:Firing Orr is a bad deal. Does Seton Hall think they're the Duke of the Big East? When was the last time a coach made the NCAA tourney and was fired, especially considering Orr beat 3 ranked teams in February. Orr was the most successful coach at Seton Hall. Heck, PJ Carlesimo had decades of losing, then 1 good season.
Who would want the Seton Hall job after Orr was fired? I didn't jinx him, Orr was fired by an administration that thinks their school and situation is much better than it really is.
Soup, this is very bad form from you
You close a sticky thread, which by the way i started
Firing Orr is a bad deal. Does Seton Hall think they're the Duke of the Big East? When was the last time a coach made the NCAA tourney and was fired, especially considering Orr beat 3 ranked teams in February. Orr was the most successful coach at Seton Hall. Heck, PJ Carlesimo had decades of losing, then 1 good season.
Who would want the Seton Hall job after Orr was fired? I didn't jinx him, Orr was fired by an administration that thinks their school and situation is much better than it really is.
Firing Orr is a bad deal. Does Seton Hall think they're the Duke of the Big East? When was the last time a coach made the NCAA tourney and was fired, especially considering Orr beat 3 ranked teams in February. Orr was the most successful coach at Seton Hall. Heck, PJ Carlesimo had decades of losing, then 1 good season.
Who would want the Seton Hall job after Orr was fired? I didn't jinx him, Orr was fired by an administration that thinks their school and situation is much better than it really is.
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I often disagree with you, but this time I can't.SaintlySaint said:
It'll stay up for the weekend. We all have to eat crow around here once in a while.
Taking a step back and looking at Orr's record alone - you guys are right, he got a bad deal by getting the hook. There is also the chance that Orr is just that big of a jerk behind the scenes. It seemed like he just stopped trying this year - while his team really went out and competed. How does a Big East team not have a single recruit signed for next year at this point in the season and nont even have anything on the fire with respect to recruiting.
The writing was on the wall when the new AD was hired.
Taking a step back and looking at Orr's record alone - you guys are right, he got a bad deal by getting the hook. There is also the chance that Orr is just that big of a jerk behind the scenes. It seemed like he just stopped trying this year - while his team really went out and competed. How does a Big East team not have a single recruit signed for next year at this point in the season and nont even have anything on the fire with respect to recruiting.
The writing was on the wall when the new AD was hired.
Orr did a decent job there...Seems the AD just wanted his own guy in the job...hard to recruit when the newspapers are full of "Orr won't be back next season"...apparently Orr was "only" making 500K per year, not a lot by BE standards.soup said:It'll stay up for the weekend. We all have to eat crow around here once in a while.
Taking a step back and looking at Orr's record alone - you guys are right, he got a bad deal by getting the hook. There is also the chance that Orr is just that big of a jerk behind the scenes. It seemed like he just stopped trying this year - while his team really went out and competed. How does a Big East team not have a single recruit signed for next year at this point in the season and nont even have anything on the fire with respect to recruiting.
The writing was on the wall when the new AD was hired.
You would think Orr ould get another head job immediately - given his 20 win season at Siena followed by 5 years at Seton Hall that got them 3 NCAA berths - however, the word has gotten around the Orr is a real idiot behind the scenes and he will never get another head coaching job in college. If anything, he'll get an assistants job in the NBA.
Orr could probably get another mid-major job if he wants it. As I've said before I believe him to only being a so-so coach but his record is pretty solid overall. Say if Manhattan were to open up, maybe he lands there.
You mean if BG goes, Fran F isn't coming back ?MTS said:Orr could probably get another mid-major job if he wants it. As I've said before I believe him to only being a so-so coach but his record is pretty solid overall. Say if Manhattan were to open up, maybe he lands there.
I say good job by Soup in pinning the post on top of the board, it will do Saintly good to eat crow for a few days. Orr was an decent X and O guy, but there is much more to running a successful D1 program than a few hours a day in practice. You have to be able to smoooze with big time boosters, be a fundraiser for the athletic dept and a presence in the community in all those off the court area’s Orr was horrible
Louie Orr will never wind up as Manhattan's head coach. He is a good guy and a fairly good coach, but there's no way he's going to ever coach the Jaspers.MTS said:Orr could probably get another mid-major job if he wants it. As I've said before I believe him to only being a so-so coach but his record is pretty solid overall. Say if Manhattan were to open up, maybe he lands there.
In fact, I think that Louie Armstrong, Louie Nye, Louie Prima, and Benjamin Orr from the Cars are more likely to coach at Manhattan (and they're still dead, I think).
They'd even consider former tennis pro Peanut Louie over Orr - at least she co-wrote a book with John Wooden...
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