I don't give him no credit. But you seem to act as though Thibs just magically conjured this improvement. The majority of the credit should go the players themselves for their hard work. I am not a big believer that, particularly for Jimmy - whose major improvement occurred during the offseason when he made a point to escape Thibs - that the lion's share of the credit goes to anyone other than Jimmy himself.Obviously you refuse to give Thibs any credit on his ability to develop players. So there really is no point in even debating with you any further on the matter.
Can you credibly argue otherwise, particularly for a big, and particularly for a big with repetitive stress injuries like Noah has struggled with? I am not saying anything controversial.Covering more court = injuries now?
I think I've been pretty clear that the guys Thibs gives huge minutes are going to produce really well during that period of time. The question is at what cost.Funny on how the two years that Thibs pushed him past the brink was his best years as a basketball PERIOD. The whole minutes excuse is sooo overused and is being used as a big excuse as to why these guys can't stay healthy. Who's to say that Noah's injuries weren't caused by his refusal to change shoes for 2 seasons when people where bringing up the idea that his french shoes could be hurting his feet?
I agree that we don't know that Thibs overusing Noah caused his injuries. It's just one factor to look at. The team did that in conjunction with sports medicine personnel and came up with a plan to address that particular factor. Thibs hated the plan and violated it routinely.
Again, this is not controversial.
He had a single acute injury.McDermott played very few minutes and he could not stay healthy.
True. He twisted his ankles a lot. Hardly a repetitive stress injury.Taj Gibson wasn't a big minutes guy and he would get injured consistently.
Agreed.Pau Gasol played big minutes and yet he was healthy for a large part of the season.
Funny. When Taj suffers ankle sprains or McDermott needs a knee scope, you cite those as evidence to favor your argument. But when Jimmy has similar injuries, those are "freak plays."Jimmy played huge minutes and was only hurt on a couple of freak plays.
I have no idea whether 32 minutes was the tightest restriction in the NBA, but yes, he was injured yet again. More minutes would have prevented this, then?Rose had the TIGHTEST minutes restriction of any player in the NBA and was still injured.
They sure do. You can't stop them. But the current sports medicine consensus seems to think that you can reduce their frequency by adhering to certain practices. Again, I'm not sure why you're bristling at this, other than you hate GarPax and just want to believe that anything they would implement must be wrongheaded.
I agree that the minutes thing is only one factor in the decision to dismiss Thibs and, in and of itself, may not have been a fireable offense. Of course, we know there was plenty more.Just proves that the whole minute excuse is overblown.
He was there in years past, was he not? I'm not sure why selfishness in playing style would have anything to do with where you train, either.As much as people wan't to portray Jimmy as a nice aww shucks cowboy, the dude is probably the most selfish player on the team. So if he was the guy who said he would not be at the advocate center if Thibs was there, was probably not going to be there anyways regardless of who is there.
Rose trains in California, Jordan stayed away from the Berto Center and worked out with his own guys on the west side. Some guys went back to their home states and worked out there on their own too. People act like training outside of their team controlled buildings is a new thing.
It's been reported that players specifically threatened to avoid the Advocate Center this summer if Thibs were around. If you don't want to believe that, that's fine. But don't act like this isn't Thibs-related. You're just not being honest.