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Gold doesn't always translate to green, according to UFC President Dana White.

Of the eight champions now populating the UFC's ranks, three are top pay-per-view draws.

Five fighters – Georges St-Pierre, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones, Chael Sonnen and Rashad Evans – are the promotion's current kings, White said following UFC 152.

White disclosed the list in rebuttal to a Toronto Sun story that was gloomy on the UFC's future. Among its assertions, ex-UFC heavyweight champ Brock Lesnar was listed as the promotion's No. 1 attraction.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/30785/ufc...per-view-draws-following-recent-criticism.mma

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I can see how he's up there. The guy is entertaining, and no matter your opinion on him, he knows how to market a fight.
 

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Saw this at the post-fight press conference. Chael's a bit of a surprise, but I guess people know his name by now with all the public appearances he's made. I really thought Aldo might make it in, or even someone like Rampage or BJ Penn. I'm sure about the first three, and Rashad's legit as well, but keep in mind this might have just been Dana talking out of his ass.
 

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I call bullshit on Chael. Dana is just in love with the guy for some reason and is trying to make him look like someone that should get a title shot
 

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If I want to watch wrestling, I'll tune into Raw.
Wrestling is just as much a part of MMA as punching or kicking or judo is. If you don't like it then you aren't a fan of MMA. End of story.
 

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The Top 20 buyrates in UFC history as of 2011.

1) UFC 100 (Lesnar vs Mir, GSP vs Alves, Hendo vs Bisping)
2) UFC 116: Lesnar vs Carwin
3) UFC 66: Liddell vs. Ortiz 2
4) UFC 114: Rampage vs. Evans
5) UFC 121: Lesnar vs. Velasquez
6) UFC 91: Couture vs. Lesnar
7) UFC 92: Evans vs. Griffin
8) UFC 94: St. Pierre vs. Penn 2
9) UFC 101: Penn vs. Florian
10) UFC 111: St. Pierre vs. Hardy
11) UFC 129: St. Pierre vs. Shields
12) UFC 124: St. Pierre vs. Koscheck
13) UFC 61: Silvia vs. Arlovski
14) UFC 126: Silva vs. Belfort
15) UFC 79: St. Pierre vs. Hughes
16) UFC 71: Liddell vs. Jackson
17) UFC 97: Silva vs. Leites
18) UFC 98: Evans vs. Machida
19) UFC 87: St. Pierre vs. Fitch
20) UFC 107: Penn vs. Sanchez


I'm sure an updated list would have recent Jones and Silva fights on it, but this was the most recent list I could find. It's amazing how huge Lesnar was for MMA in terms of popularity.
 

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And as far as people that peak my interest in terms of headlining/co headlining, I'd go with:

(in no order)

GSP, Bones, Silva, Sonnen, Edgar, Aldo, Cruz, JDS, Cerrone.
 

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Sonnen is sketchy on that list. Not sure I buy that as anything more than White trying to hype him as a star.
 

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Wrestling is just as much a part of MMA as punching or kicking or judo is. If you don't like it then you aren't a fan of MMA. End of story.
I would argue, but you've already comprehensively ensured people on this site laugh at your posts first, and read them second.
 

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I would argue, but you've already comprehensively ensured people on this site laugh at your posts first, and read them second.
Right, so laugh first, then read them, and this somehow prevents you from being able to make an argument. Uh huh. When you're done not making sense let me know.

And btw, very nice way of handling this. Laughing at people's comments and basically calling them stupid, it's nice to see we have such mature moderators on this site.
 

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^ I was very careful in watching what I said to you actually. Somehow I knew you would try and throw that in my face.

If you want to infer that I called you stupid, go ahead, but the fact of the matter is, I never.

You deciding I am 'not a fan' of MMA due to one little comment is where this started. If you want to act as some authority that decides who can like MMA than go ahead, but don't expect me to agree with such boneheaded statements.
 

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^ I was very careful in watching what I said to you actually. Somehow I knew you would try and throw that in my face.

If you want to infer that I called you stupid, go ahead, but the fact of the matter is, I never.

You deciding I am 'not a fan' of MMA due to one little comment is where this started. If you want to act as some authority that decides who can like MMA than go ahead, but don't expect me to agree with such boneheaded statements.
Well no offense, but you could've been a lot more careful with what you said there.

But at the same time though, the same applies for me. I guess I went too far with that statement so I apologize for that and lets just forget it happened.

Now to me, I don't think that the wrestling itself is exciting, but when someone uses it effectively against their opponent, I enjoy seeing that. Same thing with judo and boxing and kicking. Only thing I find boring though is the clinching. No matter how intense someone tries to make it look while it's happening, I find a very hard desire to care for some odd reason...that and when Machida fights.
 

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Well no offense, but you could've been a lot more careful with what you said there.

But at the same time though, the same applies for me. I guess I went too far with that statement so I apologize for that and lets just forget it happened.

Now to me, I don't think that the wrestling itself is exciting, but when someone uses it effectively against their opponent, I enjoy seeing that. Same thing with judo and boxing and kicking. Only thing I find boring though is the clinching. No matter how intense someone tries to make it look while it's happening, I find a very hard desire to care for some odd reason...that and when Machida fights.
Water under the bridge.

I respect the wrestlers, and I love seeing the take downs. It's when nothing happens from that point, when a wrestler is happy to prove his dominance by staying in control.

GSP is probably unbeatable at this point, but I can not sit and watch 5 rounds of his when all he does is rinse and repeat the takedown and control game. Once you've seen it a couple fights, you've seen it a million.

Rashad Evans isn't nearly as boring as some other wrestlers, but if I'm paying, I want excitement and value for money (these things are expensive) and I really only think Silva and Jones can guarentee you will get that.
 

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Quit fighting, R-Star hates confrontation.
And this Porn Player is why I think we should just continue arguing.

But I do agree that when it comes reptitive, the wrestling part of MMA can get boring. Speaking of GSP btw, I can remember in one of the fights were GSP was told to not finish his opponent and just keep him on the ground because he was able to do it when ever he wanted, I can't remember who it was he faced, but I can't recall a time I was ever so bored watching a fight.

Edit: Actually, I think it was Dan Hardy. But I'm not entirely sure.
 
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