[aquaitious]

Here is the truth about the deal. The deal was done by the owners of the team, it was just pure buissness, it wasn't about sports, it was about buissness. The celtics did the Sonics a huge favor of getting rid or Baker and his huge contrac and in exchange the celtics got some money no one knows about, please do you really think that the celtics will let someone beat them for the 16 championships? It was the same deal that was done with Phoenix and the Nets, why would a team give away their best player, their all star, their all devensive team player, and their captain for years for some young guy? Who is gonna teach them? The coaches don't do that but the mentors do, the old guys that have been in this league for a long time do. It wasn't done to make any team better but about the buissness (the LARGE amount of $$$) that was within the deal.


I don't want to hate Baker, and when (and if) he plays good I am not gonna be a Baker lover, I like him right now and think that it was a better move then what we had, except that we traded Forte.

 

[JNice]

You did improve the team. Baker is a good scorer when he is in shape.

But does the move make Boston a title contender? Because now you are basically set with Pierce-Walker-Baker.. they wont be able to afford adding anyone else worth anything to those three now.

Personally, I think they've gotten just good enough to try for EC Finals for next 4 years. That is about it.

Unless Kedrick Brown becomes a superstar in a couple.

 

[w-h-i-t-e-b-o-y]

I like it though

I'm with both of those comments I think Vin B will be a good relief player spelling Battie and Walker and I don't care who we bring in we will be in the top 4 or 5 seed for the next 5 to 6 years just becuase of Pierce and Walker(barring no major injuries) Also if it is true about the big $$$$ being sent from team to team then lets hope we can go get a bonafide PG. If you look at our roster we only have one real PG(JR Bremer) Now Delk and Shammond can play it but they are both natural 2's....Lets say maybe McGinnis from LAC hes an unrestricted FA or Maybe Earl Boykins who was released by LAC. I think Baker will be a big force in the East whne he's in and he will help bring in another scoring big man off the bench. I also think he's gonna help when we play the Lakers in the Finals(he did pretty good in the Semi's this year against Duncan.)(also refer to Early Predictions in NBA thread)

 

[JNice]

I think the "big money" the_truth was referring to was a under-the-table kind of big money payment, not the type that the team could use to sign a pg.

I think Shammond could start at PG, better than Delk. Delk is truly a SG in a PG body, plus he doesnt handle the ball all that great.

I just dont understand why they would want to lock themselves up as a middle-of-the-road team for the next 4-5years by adding Baker. Doesnt seem like Pierce or Walker can get much better than last season.

I think the X-factor for Boston will be the development of Kedrick Brown.

 

[aquaitious]

Originally posted by Dee Bo
I think the "big money" the_truth was referring to was a under-the-table kind of big money payment, not the type that the team could use to sign a pg.

Yeah that is what I was taling about

Originally posted by Dee Bo
I think the X-factor for Boston will be the development of Kedrick Brown.

Thats what I think too, it would be nice having another athlete, and I really hope that we can pick up a good Center in next years draft, and a good PG

 

[DetBNyce]

Just a Pistons Fan that wanted to thank you guys for tying your hands up in terms of spending money the next four years. You guys may have gotten better inside but you got worst at a critical position the PG. While Kenny may not have been an All-Star he was a solid PG, who killed us in the playoffs. While you guys a making lateral movemants we are taking steps forward, while still having tons of money.

 

[JNice]

Not to start anything, just wondering, exactly what steps forward has Detroit taken?

I think you guys were quite lucky to be successful last season. Ben Wallace and Stackhouse are great, but arent getting any better. And Cliff Robinson is nearly washed up. Chucky Atkins is an NBA backup that was starting at PG.

Chauncey Billups is not a bigtime signing.

Meanwhile, other teams in the East are getting much better. New York got better adding McDyess. Miami should be much better if healthy with Caron Butler. Orlando will be better with a healthy Grant Hill. Indiana will be better with more experience for the young guys, Tinsley, Oneal, Harrington, Bender.

 

[DetBNyce]

I know we overacheived last year but I could see the Pistons being a better team while having a worst record. I never said Chauncey was a big signing but he averaged 15 ppg when he starting in Minn. and 22 ppg in the playoffs so while he make not be a superstar he will solidifiy the PG position. Our point of view is if you can't have a great PG then have two pretty good ones. Chauncey will put Atkins on the bench and make him one of the best backups in the league. We also have one of the deepest teams in the east with Wallace, Stackhouse, Billups, Cliff, Williamson, atkins, Barry, Rebraca, Curry, Okur, and either Princor Rodney White. I have heard plenty of times analyst as well as Joe D. say Okur would've been a lottery pick or the 3rd PF taken in this years draft but we got him in the second rd last year. On top of that we have alot of money to spend in the free agent class next year so potentially we could become a good team very fast. We have Memphis' first rd pick next yr too.

Boston has their hands tied financially, New York does to and McDyess is coming off a serious injury. Grant Hill will never be the same as he was before he may be good be he won't be anuthing close to what he once was.

I could see New Jersey, Milwaukee-- with all that offense, New Orleans, maybe Philly, and Boston right at the top with us.

 

[p]

Originally posted by Dee Bo

Chauncey Billups is not a bigtime signing.

I disagree, Chauncey Billups is a young talented player who will make the most of a starting job in Detroit...

 

[JNice]

Same was said for Larry Hughes last year. And for that matter, Chucky Atkins.

 

[DetBNyce]

Larry Hughes was put in at PG and asked to do things like distribute the ball thta he normally doesn't do.

 

[JNice]

I personally don't see Chauncey as a true point either. He is definitely a scoring point, just like Chucky tries to be.