Professional and College Basketball Forums banner

1 - 16 of 16 Posts

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
33,191 Posts
Makes sense to end it given the conferences and schools that no longer participate, and it was a good run for the event, but agree probably a good time to end it.

Will make scheduling interesting games a bit more difficult for us, but that's fine.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,738 Posts
Don't mind this, it was starting to get kinda blahh IMO.

Who is UVMs possible opponents right now?


Sent from my iPod touch using VS Free
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,306 Posts
ESPN got greedy...took a great thing and tried to make it greater. No need to have 68 games & 136 mid-major teams playing...at that point, it had lost a lot of what it was originally designed to do.

It's too bad because a lot of those games at the beginning were pretty great...

And I agree, when you have teams thinking they are too big now to be a part of it even though their league is a mid-major, it waters it down.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,844 Posts
ESPN got greedy...took a great thing and tried to make it greater. No need to have 68 games & 136 mid-major teams playing...at that point, it had lost a lot of what it was originally designed to do.

It's too bad because a lot of those games at the beginning were pretty great...

And I agree, when you have teams thinking they are too big now to be a part of it even though their league is a mid-major, it waters it down.
Should have one rep per league and X number of "at-large" for 32 participants/16 games.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
33,191 Posts
Having the Marist's and the UNH's of the mid-major world really had no effect on ESPN- ESPN was only putting the however many, 7 or 8 best match-ups on TV anyways.

It got killed IMO by marquee teams like Gonzaga dropping out, then Butler dropped out IIRC, then ultimately the entire CAA quit due to NBC contract, and you've got schools like VCU moving A10.

When you've got all these mid-major teams/conferences not participating, it really just stops becoming the Bracketbusters anymore.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
3,613 Posts
Should have one rep per league and X number of "at-large" for 32 participants/16 games.
It's tough though, a lot of times the teams you would ticket as sure thing mid-major successes before a season don't pan out, and then you have surprise teams that would be left out if you pre-ordained a set 32 before the season. You also couldn't ask 135 teams to hold open a playable date for a bracket buster possibility then not have 103 of them play the max number of games.

I think they did the best job they could- they had a plethora of eligible teams, ensuring surprises got marquee games (like there's no way the 2007-08 Drake team would have been picked preseason to be in the field), and making sure that complete duds didn't get tv games (i.e. 2008-09 Southern Illinois when they finally collapsed).

Sure, you ended up with some tough trips last minute, but it did end up helping some teams schedule games they wouldn't have normally got (Maine hosting Siena, for example), and created some really good tv games.

All in all, I think the positives outweighed the negatives. But I understand ending it- there are 1,000,000 channels now, everyone is going to get SOME tv exposure, and with all the conference shakeups, who knows what the situation will be going forward- are the mid-majors even "mid-majors" anymore or are they all in the Big East?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
5,306 Posts
Having the Marist's and the UNH's of the mid-major world really had no effect on ESPN- ESPN was only putting the however many, 7 or 8 best match-ups on TV anyways.

It got killed IMO by marquee teams like Gonzaga dropping out, then Butler dropped out IIRC, then ultimately the entire CAA quit due to NBC contract, and you've got schools like VCU moving A10.

When you've got all these mid-major teams/conferences not participating, it really just stops becoming the Bracketbusters anymore.
No arguments on any of that...however, the hassle of just scheduling all those games was dropped on someone at ESPN. You have to check and see who has played who, do they already have them on their schedule, keep track of who plays home & away...just a lot of crap to deal with when those games aren't doing anything for your network.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
33,191 Posts
No arguments on any of that...however, the hassle of just scheduling all those games was dropped on someone at ESPN. You have to check and see who has played who, do they already have them on their schedule, keep track of who plays home & away...just a lot of crap to deal with when those games aren't doing anything for your network.
No doubt administratively that was going to be difficult- especially as so many of the schools finished in the same place each year, and played them in previous BB, or already played during season. It was going to get tougher and tougher to find new schools to play that were relatively close regionally- and as more schools were dropping out as well.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
33,191 Posts
It's tough though, a lot of times the teams you would ticket as sure thing mid-major successes before a season don't pan out, and then you have surprise teams that would be left out if you pre-ordained a set 32 before the season. You also couldn't ask 135 teams to hold open a playable date for a bracket buster possibility then not have 103 of them play the max number of games.

I think they did the best job they could- they had a plethora of eligible teams, ensuring surprises got marquee games (like there's no way the 2007-08 Drake team would have been picked preseason to be in the field), and making sure that complete duds didn't get tv games (i.e. 2008-09 Southern Illinois when they finally collapsed).

Sure, you ended up with some tough trips last minute, but it did end up helping some teams schedule games they wouldn't have normally got (Maine hosting Siena, for example), and created some really good tv games.

All in all, I think the positives outweighed the negatives. But I understand ending it- there are 1,000,000 channels now, everyone is going to get SOME tv exposure, and with all the conference shakeups, who knows what the situation will be going forward- are the mid-majors even "mid-majors" anymore or are they all in the Big East?
All of this.

IMO the beginning of the end was when Gonzaga opted out- you knew others were going to follow suit- but who is to blame Gonzaga- they hosted Illinois the other night on ESPN in front of 6,000 home fans, meanwhile UCLA and Texas are playing in front of 1,000 people in Houston.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
149 Posts
Good riddaince. About 8 years too late.
Conferences of teams Sacred Heart played OOC at home:
2012-2013 - America East & Patriot
2011-2012 - America East, Ivy & Patriot
2010-2011 - America East & Patriot
2009-2010 - America East, Ivy & Patriot
2008-2009 - America East & Ivy
2007-2008 - Ivy & Patriot
2006-2007 - America East, Ivy & Metro Atlantic
2005-2006 - Ivy, Patriot & D-II Independent
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
33,191 Posts
It's quite simple.

If you're the fan of a school in a low mid, obscure conference (the AE) that doesn't get a lot of attention and have been successful over the 11 years of the Bracketbuster, the value is obvious. Or, if you're a school that has difficulty getting home games for whatever reason, the value is also obvious.

If you're the fan of a school that for the most part has been on the low end or middling in a mid-major conference, then the event was a waste of a trip and worthless and you're not going to see any value.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,793 Posts
I enjoyed the Boise State and VCU TV games and their return trips to SEFCU.

I would have liked them to continue it but only for the Top 2 or 3 teams from a conference invited. In the past whole conferences were invited.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,750 Posts
Conferences of teams Sacred Heart played OOC at home:
2012-2013 - America East & Patriot
2011-2012 - America East, Ivy & Patriot
2010-2011 - America East & Patriot
2009-2010 - America East, Ivy & Patriot
2008-2009 - America East & Ivy
2007-2008 - Ivy & Patriot
2006-2007 - America East, Ivy & Metro Atlantic
2005-2006 - Ivy, Patriot & D-II Independent
What does this have to do with me hating the bracket busters??
 
1 - 16 of 16 Posts
Top